This is by far the most #german sign I've ever seen.

At least they actually *allow* you to use the stairs. In other places they put barrier tape around it - or even removed the whole staircase. #Germany #OnlyInGermany

@Natanox to be fair, it has been shown that people tend to stumble more if stairs have non-standard heights

@lexi @Natanox

When I was in school, I took a set design class (because I'm a theater school dropout, of course). They drilled into our heads that we needed to maintain the standard rise/run ratio to keep people from falling on their asses during a performance. It's so ingrained into our muscle memory.

They also said to pay attention in public to non-standard stair ratios. Especially when there's a deep-shallow-deep-shallow pattern. It's typically to show down riots and marches. almost every public government building and university in the US has them.

@Natanox It's probably a historical flight of steps not conforming to standards expected elsewhere in town or in the country and that's one of the places where accidents tend to happen more often. I think it's a fair warning. In a society driven by standards and not informal rules (all Western societies are) it shows that you care.
@andiias @Natanox Is that something people would generally understand "non-DIN-standard" to mean? Because there's got to be a better way to communicate that.

@roywig

No. It's clear bureaucratese. But "Benutzung auf eigene Gefahr!" (including the exclamation mark :-)) is as ubiquitous a sign as "Look left" in the UK, and that everyone understands. And that's the message that needs to get across. The thing about DIN just conveys authority: "Ah, there are people who know what they're talking about, even if I don't ..." πŸ˜†

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@Natanox is that why germans keep tripping everywhere when they are in spain?
@efi can confirm, Spain is definitely not DIN-normgerecht
@Natanox in medieval castles and fortresses stairs varied in length and height to let attackers fall over their feet... To help them up gently... With a pointy stick πŸ˜…
@Natanox someone got slapped with a copy of Neufert
@Natanox What are these? Steps for ANSI?

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What happens,
if a blind man hurts himself on these stairs?

@Natanox I'm actually glad this standard exists. It defines good defaults for step depth, height, and so on. Steps must be level. And most importantly it dictates that these values must not change within stairs. Most stairs not adhering to this standard are either extremely annoying to use, or dangerous because they're easy to slip or trip on.

tl;dr: the sign is a fair warning, although it would be much better if it said *how* it violates the standard.

@Natanox The most German was in a post I saw some years ago: a sign explaining that a flight of stairs is closed off for not complying to building standards, but it can't be rebuilt to modern standards because the building is protected as a historic building.
@Natanox there could be a huge sign next to it with the rules and regulations related to the stairs. In very small print.

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  • I liked this, likely a year ago.
  • I don't remember, which normally wouldn't be weird... except...
  • It annoys me that apparently I don't remember everything I ever liked, for some reason.
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    I'm curious what the stairs look like, do you have a picture of the whole thing?
    @Natanox They closed down a flight of stairs because of a level crossing downstairs because of safety violations, since the crossing is technically not a "level crossing", but rather a "traveller's crossing" according to regulation. (video in German). https://youtu.be/8wy-_Vn1np0?si=sUDHy8o2n-J42PBj
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