Here's a first: did a Google search on something and one of my own Mastodon posts came up as a result.

Beginning to think that the cultural norm here of not allowing search isn't going to last all that much longer.

@mmasnick Instance admins can opt their users out of search engine indexing, but individual users can opt-out themselves by going to settings on the website and going under Preferences -> Other.

How well that works? Uhhhh… Good question? 😅

@smalls @mmasnick I suspect most users are happy to have their posts searchable.
@anderspuck @smalls @mmasnick Sure but most people probably aren't victims of pile ons, or getting threads filled with trolls the moment they talk about e.g. their race, sexuality, gender etc. Not saying all search is bad but saying most people would be happy with it doesn't really address the reason that some people aren't, and doesn't automatically make it ok.
@krnlg @smalls @mmasnick I think it's great that people can opt out in the settings, but I don't think admins should do it for the entire server.

@anderspuck @krnlg @smalls @mmasnick

Hmm... so the next cis white man will say

"Oh it's no problem, the people who don't want to be searched can go to a server where that isn't true."

And be blithefully unaware that they've reinvented the ghetto.

Plus this will make fascist/TERF lives easier for stochastic and e warfare by grouping their targets.

Tell me I'm wrong.

#Mastodon #MastodonSearch #MastodonGhetto

@Homebrewandhacking @anderspuck @krnlg @smalls @mmasnick
It could also work the other way? We can root out TERFs/Racists etc by searching their posts, which also actually makes it easier to report them and get their instances defederated if they don't boot them. The search function on twitter seemed to be used equally and as I recall, it was Black Mastodonians who were arguing that lack of a search filter meant that vetting wasn't possible.

@LizEllisPhD @anderspuck @krnlg @smalls @mmasnick

Open racists and TERFs are proactively moderated out due to defed policies.

Ones with an ounce of subtlety won't be picked up by plain text searches. The ones they target will be.

You'll have to be a lot more specific about what your last sentence means. There's several possible issues I know of.

@Homebrewandhacking @anderspuck @krnlg @smalls @mmasnick
If I could, I'd do a search, but essentially I saw posts from BIPOC saying the lack of a search function was an issue, because in reporting, you can't demonstrate a pattern. By only allowing search using #, people don't actually have to be particularly subtle. They can just write sex not gender or whatever.

I get what you're saying & I understand why it's this way, I'm just saying a search function isn't necessarily bad, more neutral.

@LizEllisPhD @anderspuck @krnlg @smalls @mmasnick

Ah, I _think_ that sounds like @futurebird on QT. Could be wrong!

Keeping receipts via screenshot is one thing but actually searching a user profile for phrases and dogwhistles is harder. Which in turn makes it harder to demonstrate the more subtle bigots or search one's own profile for evidence of those bigots prodding at you. See: #microaggresion