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Battle for Libraries

Don’t let libraries die. As the future goes digital, major publishers are suing to cut off libraries’ defense of digital books from censorship. It’s time to fight back.

Fight for the Future
Mar 20, 2023 at 5:27pmWeb
Show threadshyduroffMar 21, 2023
@internetarchive @team … +++ …
Show threadANN07064061Mar 22, 2023
@internetarchive @team The publisher's argument accusing that the IA didn't pay publishers or authors is flat out wrong. Simply not paying? So if I donate a purchased book to a library, is that library responsible to pay to authors? Did they not know that people can buy products on their behalf? You might as well demand children to pay them just because their parents gave it to them.
Show threadANN07064061Mar 22, 2023
@internetarchive @team If you go to a bookstore, take a book off the shelf, read a few pages for a few seconds, and then put it back, is that stealing?
Show threadNihl L'AmasMar 23, 2023
@ANN07064061 @internetarchive @team What these publishers really want is for books to have permanent software-style single-user shrink wrap agreements.
Show threadeMarginaliaMar 23, 2023
@ANN07064061 @internetarchive @team
Are you kidding? If you go to a shoe store, try on a pair of shoes, walk 20 or 30 feet, and decide not to buy that pair, are you stealing?
Show threadloriMar 23, 2023
@ANN07064061 @internetarchive @team And honestly this is what I am doing for 90% of the books I open on the IA, I use it a lot more for quick reference than long form reading
Show threadDrScripttMar 23, 2023

@ANN07064061 @internetarchive @team

Doing that once is not stealing.

Reading a few pages per day means you eventually read the entire book without having paid for it.

The book is still there for sale thus you didn’t steal it.

But you didn’t pay for the valu you got out of the book either.

Book stores are not libraries. You are supposed to pay for books you read at a book store. Lest the store go out of business.

Somebody paid for things at the library. Either taxes and / or membership fees.

Some compensation seems reasonable to me.

Show threadDrScripttMar 23, 2023

@ANN07064061 @internetarchive @team I think the Internet Archive digitizing books is great. I check out books to read when I want to.

I also donate to the Internet Archive.

My concern is around the licenses that the book was originally sold / purchased under.

I don’t think the Internet Archive has the legal authority to do things agains, much less change, the author’s / publisher’s license.

I can’t legally buy a DVD for personal consumption and show it publicly.

Show threadLady TaliaMar 23, 2023
@ANN07064061 @internetarchive @team I once read a whole book that way - 10 pages a day for months.
Show threadPteryx the Puzzle SecretaryMar 23, 2023

@ANN07064061 @internetarchive @team The increasing prevalence of shrinkwrap for new books indicates that publishing houses think so.

It's ridiculous.

Show threadANN07064061Mar 25, 2023
@pteryx @internetarchive @team Totally agree, they are trying to apply binding contract restrictions even when the party didn't sign it.
Show threadAndrius (Math 4 Wisdom)Mar 24, 2023
@ANN07064061 @internetarchive @team If there is any doubt, I would say, ask the owner. Double check.
Show threadFarhan TajuddinMar 24, 2023
@internetarchive @team Libraries should never die. It's a useful resource for anyone who wants to learn about the past and corportations should not put a stop at it to satisfy their personal gains.