Eniko (moved ➡ gamedev.place)Mar 16, 2023

I see the liberals are trying to catch nazis in logical fallacies again as some way to triumph over them. Unfortunately, while it might feel good to go "ha! they can't even define what woke actually means!" the thing is that it doesn't matter to them

The right doesn't care if it lacks definitions or if it's hypocritical or even contradictory. "Woke" is just their dog whistle for "people we want to exterminate" that they can say without being perceived as "not being rude", something the liberal establishment seems to care more about than the underlying sentiment

Saying "you can't even define woke" is about as effective as saying "the president is not named Brandon". It doesn't matter. The important thing is that "let's go Brandon" gives them social cover that "fuck the president" doesn't

Stop asking nazis to define woke and start telling them that you know they want to commit genocide and you'll fight them

Your insipid word games aren't going to beat fascism

Show threadLilith Ashley Nyx Arson Mar 16, 2023
@eniko “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” — Jean-Paul Sartre
Show threadÆnðr E. FeldstrawMar 16, 2023
@root @eniko Clearly Sartre has not had the chance to meet my brother in-law. Instead of falling silent, he just keeps talking. He jumps from topic to topic, not giving anyone the opportunity to object or interfere. If everyone else is silent, he keeps going. If anyone objects, he jumps topic and keeps going. A never-ending barrage of hatred based on nonsense, intent on winning by silencing any and all opposition.
Show threadRicardo HarvinMar 16, 2023

@aeveltstra @root @eniko If you're not going to punch him, you need to always remove yourself from any and every situation where he's present, otherwise you're doing as little as the people the OP referenced.

DO SOMETHING, don't just allow him to go on and stay present as he does so because inaction is complicity.

Show threadÆnðr E. FeldstrawMar 16, 2023
@ricardoharvin @root @eniko Yep. We have removed ourselves from him and the rest of his enabling family, and have made sure to let everyone around us know how we feel. My spouse did come "this" close to punching him!
Show threadgshevlin
@aeveltstra @ricardoharvin @root @eniko Yes, that was the correct course of action. He's just a steamrollering bully, and unless enough people tell him to ingest a good dose of STFU or they will leave, he is going to continue with that behavior pathology.
Mar 17, 2023 at 10:21pmWeb