Mastodawn

Tanoujin Milestone Mar 16, 2023

@bobwyman @bobwyman I would not be able to agree with any of this options. My party sees the ordinary people as potential allies and partners, not their regimes. International cooperation seems advisable, as much as distancing from dependency on foreign resources. We are no fans of competition beyond reasonable limits. The factuality of ongoing violent conflict is obvious. It looks like U is used to weaken R at cost of E for the questionable interest of USA.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoricalWhatIf/comments/2m169e/what_if_mussolini_and_hitler_went_to_war_over/

Ignore the comments on Reddit. Italy Fascism was a Catholic Third Way of economics. A unapproved Catholic dictatorship. Nazism was a completely different ideology. Trump is a Nazi. Maga are Nazis. They are not devout Catholics seeking a third way of Italian Catholicism based on Pope Leo's encyclicals.

AfD is Nazi.

Lega is Nazi.

Brothers of Italy is fascism. Which is by default anti-nazi.

So fascists consider Nazis to be clowns.

What if Mussolini and Hitler went to war over Austria?

When the Austrian President was assassinated by members of the Austrian Nazi Party, Mussolini mobilized troops and was ready to go to war with...

Mussolini when first meeting Hitler told Italians that Hitler was a clown. Mussolini wanted war with Hitler to defend/avenge Devout Catholic buddy Dollfuss in Austria & Catholic Fascism in Austria. Nazis are a threat to fascists. They are completely different ideologies.
I only read this a couple times, so don't quote me. The Nazi party of Lega Nord started with the demands to kick out Southern Italians from northern Italian cities. That is not fascism. That is Nazi.

Fascists only buddy with Nazis because of being vilified by democratic nations. UK had many African colonies. Italy wanted a place in the sun. UK bullied Italy & Italy to join the Axis. Mussolini's was ready for war with Hitler for violations against the treaty of Versailles on the independence of Austria. UK rejected Italian pleas & went & bullied Italy instead of Hitler. UK appeased Hitler & bullied the fascists to the arms of Hitler.

Fascism is third way Catholic.

Calling Nazis "fascists" is the same as calling communists and leftists "antifa". Fascist is a boogieman word. So also is antifa.

Instead of calling leftists, leftists. The conservatives call them antifa. Instead of calling maga and trump "Nazis" as they really are, they are called fascists to say they are "evil", to vilify Mussolini and Italians. Not to expose trump as a Nazi.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4049797

in November 1923, Mussolini reportedly referred to Hitler and his associates as 'buffoons

Hitler's attempt at contacting Mussolini in 1927, when he requested Mussolini's autograph, was rebuffed. The response from Il Duce's office was

The Duce regrets being unable to fulfill his [Hitler's] request but thanks him for the expression of support

What was his impression? Mussolini was asked afterwards. "A mad little clown," he said.