On 16th March, 1968 Warrant Officer Hugh Thompson Jnr was flying helicopter reconnaissance for an attack on an alleged North Vietnamese-controlled village at My Lai.

As the ground attack developed below, Thompson realised he was in fact witnessing something something else:

A massacre.

He decided to act. /1 ๐Ÿงต #history #histodons

@garius excuse me. I have no quarrel with the information you are presenting here but is it possible to give a content warning? Fwiw I am Asian (not Vietnamese) and I agree/know the US military routinely commits war crimes.
@perigee @garius yes, good idea, much of the thread is very disturbing
@ailbhe @garius it's also a heroic story about a white savior which is, yes, very inspiring. But its heroism is founded on an assumption that the US presence in Vietnam was in any way just. Which I think is not a settled question in many Asian minds (if not others' too).

@perigee @ailbhe That is absolutely not the intention here, and I do feel a misreading.

If anything it's the opposite. To highlight just how entrenched that idea was, how incorrect and the disastrous consequences of that.

In terms of 'white saviour'. The documented proof is that Thompson's actions were the ones that brought what was happening to an end. That this was true, and the enormous cost to him of doing so, shows again how horrific US imperialism had become.

@garius @ailbhe I am a sympathetic reader and I do find your narrative inspiring, John. But I am also keenly aware that while Thomason's actions and advocacy were heroic, they benefit from survivorship bias and cultural bias. No one was listening to Vietnamese voices or protests or pain or suffering. That was just common currency at the time. Is it possible to also find and celebrate Asian heroes from the same conflict? Is it not possible that their stories would be at least as inspiring and heroic? Or is this really all about the white experience?

@perigee @ailbhe I don't disagree with you at all.

And I agree it's important to find and celebrate Asian heroes from the same conflict.

But those aren't my areas of historical study. This is, so it is something I can write reasonably authoritatively about, so that's what I've done and tried to frame it in context that ensures it's not seen as if a "few bad apples" were responsible that day.

Thompson's role, and post-event experience, shows the opposite is true. And that's worth highlighting.

@garius @ailbhe is the Asian perspective something you can bring yourself to learn? I'm not saying it's trivial but it's one way you can begin to personally address the imbalance.

@perigee @ailbhe it's something i'd LOVE to learn, but - realistically - there are too many barriers in the way. From work, to family, but most critically to language and availability of sources here in London.

This is, ultimately, one of the pragmatic problems with studying history. You're always going to be viewing things through a window of both culture and access. All you can do (as a historian) is try and be aware of that, and not see only history through that window as valid.

@perigee @ailbhe also finances comes into it.

There are some INCREDIBLE photo collections from photographers embedded within North Vietnam, which present a very interesting contrast with the type of imagery that was encouraged/pushed as part of the American narrative.

But to share them here I'd need copyright permission. And the cost on that is prohibitive.

@garius @ailbhe yeah. My ex was a historian and a writer of books. I well remember the cost and administrative overhead required to secure publishing permissions and licenses for particular images.
@garius @ailbhe fair enough, I guess. But as an Asian diaspora Asian I've had to learn most of my history and culture from English speakers and writers. I'm here to say at least that challenge of language access to SOME materials is not insurmountable. But I get that this does not represent comprehensive access that a historian might need.

@perigee @ailbhe tbh one of the things I do try and avoid when doing information threads like this on here or twitter is falling into the trap of covering figures that have been covered extensively by others. Where I CAN highlight someone doing something else.

At some point I'll have enough info to cover Abdol Hossein Sardari, for example, who was critical to saving the Juguti (Central Asian Jews) community in France during the Holocaust. But unpicking the info is slow work. Eventually though!

@garius @perigee @ailbhe

I, for one, would just like to thank you for all the research and writing work, which you've provided to us all for free, today.

It was a very long thread, and I'm sure the numerous books and the doc link you provided, supply additional perspectives that you did not have room for.

I would encourage my fellow beneficiaries of your gift, to turn there, rather than hinting that you should have done even more for us today.

@garius @perigee @ailbhe

Myself, I greatly benefited from Nick Turse's "Kill Anything that Moves" has a lot on My Lai, and did provide much wider perspective, how common many smaller massacres were, how many were just done with artillery, leaving nothing. And Turse was able to travel to Vietnam and gather many stories from the survivors.

Googling the several My Lai books, I noted a tourist story, that when Colbourn died in 2016, Hanoi held a day of mourning.