Matthew GreenSomeone on Twitter wrote that “children’s rights should absolutely override privacy rights” and honestly, that shook me. The reason I care about privacy so much is because I have kids, and I don’t want them to grow up in the kind of world that person would build.
Steffen Christensen@matthew_d_green It's a terrible tradeoff. One hand, CSM prevention. The other, a thousand corporations that want to know my kids (and by proxy, my) everything.
Nemo_bis 🌈@Wikisteff There is no trade-off, because there are zero benefits.
https://stopscanningme.eu/en/paper.html
https://stopscanningme.eu/en/paper.html
@nemobis Every single idea here individually will be more effective than the original plan, I grant you.
khaleesi@matthew_d_green As Joachim Türk of the Deutsche Kinderschutz Bund (biggest childprotection org in Germany) put it in our hearing with the German Goverment:
„Privacy is a child’s right, we can not play one right against the other. Every legislation that leads to children feeling surveilled must be rejected“ (freely translated)
Read up here:
https://www.bundestag.de/dokumente/textarchiv/2023/kw09-pa-digitales-928540
solilo guy@matthew_d_green This! So much! 💯
AMS@matthew_d_green It's almost as though this person doesn't think children have any rights if they think that kind of invading childrens' privacy is ok.
Aviva Gary@matthew_d_green It is almost like they don't care for kids or privacy... 🤔
LisPi@Aviva_Gary @matthew_d_green Yeah, I hesitate to just call it an authoritarian dogwhistle at this point.
@lispi314 @matthew_d_green It's not a dog whistle if they use a blowhorn... or a vuvuzela 📢
Leszek KarlikChildren have a right to privacy.
What conservative people mean by "children's rights" is really "the parent's rights to treat their children as private property", and is a fucking violation of children's rights.
Sam Gross@matthew_d_green What about the child's right to privacy? (Yes, they have a right to privacy especially from not-their-parents)
Gareth Kitchen@matthew_d_green I provided both my kids with ProtonVPN etc. and educated them on encrypted comms to keep them safe. I'll let you know how it turns out in a few years.
BlackPixelDust: Art 
@matthew_d_green I had to reread that phrase several times.
Because... children have some right to privacy as well.
This phrase doesnt make logical sense. We destroy everyone (including children's) privacy rights... to protect children?
But then children arent protected.
That Anonymous CowardPerhaps as them to opine on the Church fighting tooth and nail against laws that require them to report abuse even if they learn of it in confession.
Its happening and that person might explode... win win
Jeffrey Vagle@matthew_d_green See also effects on 1A-related issues...
Thad@matthew_d_green Kinda weird that they think children's rights don't include privacy.
@Thad @matthew_d_green That seems to be the implication in the statement, which I find disturbing in what it hints at.
The kind of parents that constantly spy on their children and disregard their privacy (and deny their right to it, usually with some nonsensical fallacious reasoning) cause significant damages.
infinite love ⴳ@matthew_d_green something something trading privacy for safety losing both
(yeah i know it's a misquotation but that's not the point)
Daragh Ó Briain@matthew_d_green @glynmoody *taps mic* eh… privacy is a right children have as well. *shuffles off stage left*
Glyn Moody@DaraghOBrien yes, something they always conveniently overlook... @matthew_d_green
Dan York@matthew_d_green 💯 percent agreed!!
@@matthew_d_green well kids aren't people, so they don't get privacy... well except unborn children... then they are... but they're not... so should we start spying on mothers of fetuses to make sure they're not getting bad influences in the womb that'll turn them gay or worse ... a drag queen?
Seething sarcasm btw.
Seething sarcasm btw.
Jeff Hall - PCIGuru 
@matthew_d_green While I agree that children need protection, the statistics do not prove out the need to destroy encryption to protect them. Never mind the fact that once encryption is broken, it is broken and the CIA triad is forever broken.
Steve Hill 🏴🇪🇺@matthew_d_green Children's rights should override privacy rights, but the reverse is also true - privacy rights shouldn't override children's rights. There is no one-size-fits-all solution, the balance between privacy and safety should be decided by end users and their guardians, not by governments and big-tech.
@matthew_d_green I wonder how exactly that works given the fact that children should have a right to privacy.
So it ends up "children's right to privacy should override privacy rights" which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.