The #ToryParty has fully internalised the concept of:

"By whatever means necessary."

That's what:

1. Makes it, to date, the most successful political party IN THE WORLD;

2. Makes it so incredibly dangerous, as it's prepared to lie & decieve to win.

Bevan knew (pic).

IMO, There's only one way consistently to counteract/defeat that:

Swallow hard and do the same...by any means necessary.

(#Moral_High_Grounds haven't worked. Ever.)

#uk #ukpolitics

@fencoul Become a nazi to stop the nazis?

Not so sure about that.

@LaChasseuse

👆 That's precisely *not* what I said. Ensuring that good has as big a stick as bad does not make good into bad any more than it makes bad into good.

@fencoul I agree, in fact I think good needs a considerably larger stick than bad.

But I will never agree that the means justifies the end, because the words "final solution" come to mind...

We have to find means that do not degrade us.

@LaChasseuse

👆 #HumanNature is a horribly broken & dysfunctional thing and we're just gonna have to get used to that; railing against its brokenness gets us nowhere: sadly, we are what we are*.

(*The ape that lost most of its hair.)

@fencoul @LaChasseuse my translation, "humans do what humans do"
@laser314 @fencoul The fact that humans do not do the same things across diverse cultures is indicative of our ability to evolve our behaviour.
And evolve we must.