History is so important.

"A group of anti-fascists disrupting a white supremacist gathering"

The Story Behind Robert F. Sargent's Famous Photograph "Taxis to Hell – and Back – Into the Jaws of Death"

After sharing this photograph on social media with the title "Anti-fascists disrupt a white supremacist gathering," I was intrigued by the photo and felt compelled to delve deeper into the story

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@Miriamm man do I have bad news for you about the US in the 1930s and 1940s

@KevinLikesMaps @Miriamm Lol, I came here to make the same comment... ;)

The good 'ol southern boys leaving those landing crafts were the same people electing segregationists back home.

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@KevinLikesMaps @Miriamm Just the 30s and 40s? Really?
@AntiPapa_Ken @Miriamm You don't need to assume I'm ignorant or posting in bad faith. I am replying specifically to a post about WWII. I know the rest of the history.
@KevinLikesMaps Do you mean like you assumed that OP is ignorant? Stop, please.
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@AntiPapa_Ken @Miriamm Since you replied to me I thought you were... replying to *my* post. Not the OP.
@KevinLikesMaps I reacted to your "post in bad faith", Sir. @Miriamm
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Yes, it's good to be AntiFa!
@Miriamm @BruceMirken I hope it doesn’t bother you if I just keep liking and unliking your post for a while. Feels important that I repeatedly show how much I appreciate it.

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They were eager to go debate the merits of fascist policy and voting rights with the representatives awaiting them.

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Yep, my dad was OG Antifa

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My parents built B-24 LIBERATOR bombers during WW II, so they, too, were anti-fascists. Were they still alive, I think they would be shocked and angry that "antifa" had somehow been hijacked by the Right as a sort of one-size-fits-all pejorative for anyone that opposes their own fascist ideology. Based on their compassion for people on the outs and their liberalism, I imagine my parents would also be accused of being "woke," whatever that means.

@Miriamm Is

Is this post a joke.....?

@Miriamm Very timely. Today is the 90th anniversary of the Reichstag elections that cemented Hitler in power after he'd been elevated to Chancellor in January by von Papen.
@Miriamm Hmm... And at the time the USA wasn't squeaky clean nor was the UK. The USA only entered WW2 because Japan attacked the USA which is where it would have stayed - Japan v USA - had not the Japanese called for their military allies - Germany - to join in.

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While I do praise the US' efforts to thwart the Nazis, the US was not anti-fascist. There were LARGE Nazi gatherings in the US in the 1930's. Many high profile people gladly associated with the ideology. Hell, Hitler COPIED the US' handling of Native Americans for the Nazis' evil doings.

The real reason the US got involved is because Japan jumped the gun, and the US didn't want Germany or Japan becoming the dominant global imperial power. That is, they were encroaching on the US' self-perceived turf.

"But those specific soldiers were anti-fascist." Maybe, maybe not. I'd probably learn towards mostly not, considering how effective "patriotic" propaganda feed towards soldiers is.

@Miriamm "The extreme left is denying the German alt-right its right to free speech"

NB: this is SARCASM for you Mericans.

@Miriamm History is so important and so forgotten in a generation or two. That's why we're so screwed. Great caption for the photo.
@Miriamm A win for humanity is a GREAT win... so we need to step up our game to whatever it takes- not sure about you but this planet is my home !
@Miriamm Those guys sure as hell wouldn't put up with the sh*t that's going on now.

@Miriamm Let's just keep in mind that everything admirable in that effort is at risk when we don't recognize the contemporary threats.

Does any of us doubt that, should it suit their cravings for power, a Trump or a DeSantis would get at the front of a Silver Shirt parade right about now, if not sooner?

@Miriamm That army didn't allow gay soldiers, women in combat roles and half of them were from states where white supremacy was the law of the land. The army itself was segregated and their commander in chief was very popular with white supremacists.

Modern "anti"-fa people would consider the these troops to be fascist. Since they don't really understand what fascism is.

@Miriamm won't be suprised if Florida and Texas history books start saying the Allies were the bad guys of the world wars
@Miriamm 10/10 - best summary of history ever.
@Miriamm history is going to repeat itself because of brainwashed folks like you
@Miriamm I have nicked this post.
@Miriamm Wasn’t the US still mostly segregated in the 40s? Also the US interned Japanese descent families whilst leaving Germans descended free. I could go on but it’s clear that there was plenty of white supremacy in the US at the time.

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So so true.
Here's another view of that day, with my father, a doc in the second wave on Utah beach, standing in the center left, trying to gain composure, a dead soldier at his feet.

My Dad never talked about that day. By a series of odd coincidences, I have since learned what his day was like & why the battle was so important, from a handful of witnesses, like my Dad, have passed on.

It's important also to gather the history from the direct witnesses before they aren't around.

@gg this is incredible! Thank you for sharing. Your Dad is a hero. I can't begin to imagine the trauma suffered by the survivors
@Miriamm do you mean those american "antifascists" who segregated the Black people even after the war?
@Miriamm The Greatest Generation...
@Miriamm These guys were the @OGantifa

@Miriamm People put their lives on the line for the freedom of others ❤️

NEVER forget!

@Miriamm @stux They never thought that it would once come the day, that there is an American white supremacist and a whole political party stuffed with racists like Hitler …
@Miriamm ... and trying to deny their right to free speech.
@Miriamm Sadly, some of our brave, antifascist fighters went on to become Richard Nixon and Joseph McCarthy and George HW Bush (Ronald Reagan, too, if you count his imaginary combat experience). The lesson is not that these were bad men--they were heroes at the time--but rather that we are all susceptible to turning to the dark side. Being antifascist is the right thing to do. Staying antifascist is a lifetime effort.

@Miriamm I think this is a fine post, but I see from the responses many people think that since the countries opposing Nazi Germany had many human rights issues themselves, we cannot celebrate the accomplishments of soldiers who fought to prevent Nazi Germany from becoming an established major world power.

Or more generally, we cannot celebrate any good done by flawed people. I reject this notion.

@Miriamm The problem is, there is barely a country left without fascists in charge or on the raise. Even in Switzerland the party with the largest voter share is right wing nationalist. Fortunately, the Swiss have a kind of all-party government model, so it is not a minority of voters dominating a country, like in UK, for example.

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I hope they defeated them in the marketplace of ideas...

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just btw,
photo by Robert F. Sargent, United States Coast Guard chief petty officer and photographer.

Got https://inventaire.io/items/e37df788352f6556f39e59bf83078983 in the fedi library

@Miriamm Or conscripts, adventure hungry & ignorant volunteers…
@Miriamm this photo and its caption always makes me think about how, long after the war, the U.S. and Canadian governments kept secret files on people who went to Spain to fight for the Republic because they considered them to be "premature anti-fascists".

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"Humanity always eventually works together, whether we want it to or not.

The only difference is whether we work together before, or after, massive death and destruction."
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I agree, history matters a lot especially when it comes to resisting harmful ideas. Posts like this make me reflect more. You seem like someone with a thoughtful mind, I’d like to connect.