Dan YorkMar 4, 2023

Are there ANY car manufacturers NOT selling data about you / your car?

Reading @pluralistic 's Feb 28 piece about VW tracking cars (and not providing the info unless you pay): https://pluralistic.net/2023/02/28/kinderwagen/

Cory Doctorow writes:
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> And yet, here we are. Like most (all?) major car makers, Volkswagen has filled its vehicles with surveillance gear, and has a hot side-hustle as a funnel for the data-brokerage industry.
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Is anyone keeping a list of car manufacturers who are NOT doing this?

Pluralistic: VW wouldn’t locate kidnapped child because his mother didn’t pay for find-my-car subscription (28 Feb 2023) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

Show threadSamantaz Fox

@danyork @pluralistic Unfortunately, this will become more and more common. Expect any car brand that isn't collecting data today to do so in the near future.

And even without an active connection, ECUs log a ton of offline data, that will be uploaded to the manufacturer's servers when your car goes to the workshop. Many major car manufacturers (Renault, Stellantis, Volkswagen, ...) are pushing towards mandatory use of their cloud-connected diagnostic tools even for the most basic repair tasks (E.g for an oil change).

Mar 6, 2023 at 6:23pmWeb