@Jeffrey_Smith @Milkman76 @skua @kirt @kirt @kirt

They weren't perfectly honest and transparent, but they were better than average.

The average was terrible.

If the arrests were outside Wuhan in 2019 i am interested in details? But i think I've heard all of those stories before.

It's evidence that China lacks a free press (which is already known) NOT evidence that anyone managed to hide more deaths in China than have happened in India, Russia, or the USA (at least not before November 2022)

@kirt @kirt @kirt @kirt

Hi Mega.
This thread is like minestrone.

I am interested in
1. Reports that Russia has vastly under reported COVID deaths.
2. Reports that India has vastly under reported COVID deaths.

Do you have links to sources making these claims?

@skua @kirt @kirt @kirt

yes, but i got distracted by someone who wanted to talk about China…

And I'm Kirt - Mega is just an adjective cos that's my main profile.

@kirt @kirt @kirt @kirt #COVIDRussia
#COVIDNationalExcessDeaths
Below is a graph showing RU excess deaths relative to some other countries.

Do you think RU deaths are even higher?
If so why?

https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/article/undoctored/cumulative-pandemic-deaths-graph-more-effective-1000-words

Cumulative pandemic deaths: a graph more effective than 1,000 words

<p>A good graphic illustration is well-known to convey a much stronger message than words</p>

New Zealand Doctor

@skua @kirt @kirt @kirt

Reported COVID deaths are what Russia and India are fibbing about.

Excess deaths are PROBABLY accurate, or at least the most accurate we've got.

For some places it's very hard to have any idea, e.g. PNG has a total population somewhere between 8 million and 17 million, probably about 10 million but the 17 million figure even being discussed in public tells me their birth and death records are probably kinda patchy?

@kirt @kirt @kirt @kirt
#IndiaCOVID #IndiaExcessDeaths #COVIDIndia #ExcessDeathsIndia

#COVID #COVIDExcessDeaths
I see #India is missing from that graph of #ExcessDeaths from the #Kobak database.

Below is a graph from a December 2022 article.

www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05522-2/figures/3

The WHO estimates of excess mortality associated with the COVID-19 pandemic

Do you have a source showing that excess deaths were even higher than the ~4.5 million excess deaths in this article?

@skua @kirt @kirt @kirt

yes, that's one of the papers i was going to link before getting side detailed into "is China evil"

@skua

yeah, that was one of them, why no link?

Most of the things are things I've tweeted https://twitter.com/evolving_string … but i tweet a lot of things.

#Modi is an evil lying … see above? and the #Bulldoze (CM of UP) is possibly worse.

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