The world is melting, infrastructure is crumbling, facist regimes are on the rise, continuing education is more expensive than ever, there’s very few jobs that pay enough to even rent an apartment after college, let alone buy a home, and the queerest generation ever is seeing their identities legislated away by an increasingly out of touch oligarchy.

But sure… phones are why teenagers are depressed.

@twipped Ah, literally blaming the messenger.

@Cassandra @twipped

1,000,000%!!!

My argument when I saw the title was going to be all the depressing shit going on in the world (i.e., the news) and he literally blamed the phones for bringing the news to inform the younger generation, not that we live in a nightmare dystopia

@Cassandra @twipped underrated toot right here 👏🏻

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YES.

I am getting so sick of all the "advice" on how you can be potentially slightly less miserable in this hellscape. I used to think it was mostly benign, but now I see it to be propaganda.

It may be true that less screentime can sometimes be good for mental health, but that's so insufficient that it's not even a drop in a bucket.

There's no self care that can make all this bearable & suggesting that we can individually tweak our lives until they're great is an insidious lie.

@twipped I mean, they are reading about these things on a phone, I say before hurling myself out of a window.

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Agreed, with the caveat that peer pressure sucked as a teen even pre-internet & social media-- and drove me to the brink not once but several times. :/

Because it's always sucked and we don't socialize kids to be decent to one another. If you're any kind of square peg in any way, you learn that fast. :(

I thank my lucky stars that I didn't have modern tech to make that road 10 times as tough to hoe.

@twipped and what was it before smartphones? Kids want a world they look forward to piloting.
@twipped The phones & easy access to peers may very well be the only thing keeping many going.
@twipped he should try actually having noahpinion
@twipped makes perfect sense since teenagers were never unhappy prior to cell phones....
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It's true, ignorance is bliss.
I think I'll stay educated though...
@twipped Noah is a right leaning liberal who is deeply upset that folks keep asking hard questions. His eyes can only roll so much before he has RSI, you see.
@Elucidating @twipped you won't believe what happens when This One Economist explains society!
@twipped They said honestly, so they really really mean it.
@twipped All the phones do that is bad is make it so we can't look away from whats happening
@twipped this has "where are all the workers" vibes lmao

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They should check the services that these teen phones connect to the #MLTimelnes and see why #TheSocialDilemma was made. idk

@twipped Blame the technology used to deliver the message, not the message itself, and not the world the message originates from. #fascism #1984
@twipped I mean I think if you frame it — as media often does — as looking just at middle to upper class white cis teens in the US, we can say it’s the phones. Many in that group aren’t affected directly by any of this awful news and wouldn’t be hearing about it if not for phones.
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I suspect Noah Smith is laying the ground work for a future as a "I used to be a leftist but then I wanted to get rich" type columnist.

@twipped "The world is melting, infrastructure is crumbling, facist regimes are on the rise, continuing education is more expensive than ever, there’s very few jobs that pay enough to even rent an apartment after college, let alone buy a home, and the queerest generation ever is seeing their identities legislated away by an increasingly out of touch oligarchy."

Maybe I'm too obsessed with Star Wars, but this reads like an Opening Dialog to a Star Wars Movie

@twipped sure it's not heavy metal or video games?

@n3wjack @twipped and Dungeons & Dragons.

So true

@twipped ‘most “statistically easy to justify” explanation so we can move on to not doing squat about the real problems’

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In my opinion, traumas are not necessarily caused by terrible events, but when, for some reason or another, our capacity to fight back those terrible events is taken away.

Mobile phone are addictive. That's their business model. This addiction is taking agency away from an whole generation of kids. It removes their capacity to fight back.

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"Well, where do they get all the info about it? Their phones." -whoever wrote the article, probably

@twipped I'm honestly jealous of Noah Smith. He is relentlessly stupid; in any other life he'd be barely usable as a human sandbag diverting floodwater, yet somehow he has managed to turn being incorrect on almost every subject into a very lucrative career without turning to Fox news so still has a thin layer of respectability about him.

I'd be tempted to try it myself if I thought I could stoop to his level, thankfully I cannot.

@twipped Not phones, but social media.
@twipped Boosting this! (In spirit, until we can boost things with an added CW)
@twipped Phones are the gateway drug of the internet. While definitely not all the evils assailing us there is wisdom in putting it down a going for a walk or better yet practice your musical skills
@twipped once again ignore teenagers are telling you the world is screwed and they ignore them

@twipped @bigzaphod yes, the article seems to me to say “they can’t be unhappy about these other things - average wealth is up!” And I can only wonder… have they looked at the mean?!? :(

There is a good point that phone use is correlated with the same curve, but you can explain that by realising it also then correlates to people having access to more information, not just MSM :(

@twipped it's probably just the phones
@twipped Yeah, it's the phones. All the terrible news they're reading on the phones.
@twipped Noah smith should never be listened to about anything.
@twipped In my youth violent computer games were the reason for everything, not living in a quickly stratyfing, post-communist society with crumbling social services and entire sectors of industry.
@twipped Because the phones let us use the internet, where we can see even more how messed up the world is.

@twipped I mean to be fair more time spend looking at a phone is less time spend doing better things.

But yeah phones are probably not the major cause.

@twipped it’s not like teens were every happy go lucky before the internet was in everyone’s pocket! Surly teenagers is just a thing surely?

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I agree with you🙏😞

@twipped people that post shit like this shouldn't be able to be on the internet
@twipped I love that the generation that created the phones is now astonished that next generation is somehow using them wrong
@twipped "completely undo the crushing dystopia of modern society with this one simple hack!"
@twipped Right, but if they didn’t have phones they wouldn’t know about aby of that!
@twipped Another day in the "not only, but also" Russian doll of reasons to be depressed in the current state of the world.
@twipped Yes! First thought that popped into my head when I read the headline is “Phones?! Seriously?” My 20 something friends are depressed because they got their college degrees and still can’t afford a home or even a crappy apartment without roommates.
@twipped I'm glad I'm not the only one calling BS on that article. Such broken logic.
@twipped Not to mention a horrific mass disabling pandemic that the elite protect themselves from while letting us suffer. Every system designed to protect us failing u or protecting the 1%

@twipped

That guy? Blocked me on Twitter when I asked him if he was OK with Hillary Clinton's then stated position of the democrat party throwing trans people under the bus (or not fighting for them which is looking like the position adopted anyway.)

@twipped This guy once wrote about how an entire city (SF) sucked because people don’t smile at *him*

Totally missing the other ways this city sucks. It tracks

@skinnylatte @twipped

Ouch. I’ve enjoyed some of his writing, but…ouch

@twipped When I was a teenager in the 80s and early 90s, I had no idea how fucked up the world was and I was, by those standards, pretty well connected (BBSes, Delphi, Usenet) but the mass connectivity isn't the problem, it's a catalyst to see how bad things are and that is depressing for everybody not just teens.

A thing I've noticed about the generation or two behind me (I'm almost 50) is they tend to have radical empathy more often than not, which gives me hope.

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And i thought it was the avocado toast
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