mtswThere is no "law" anymore as long as the GOP's stolen majority controls the Supreme Court. They will just blindly assert their power to run our country until that power is challenged https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/2/28/23618985/supreme-court-student-loan-forgiveness-biden-nebraska-education-brown
The Democratic plan to deal with this, just kinda hope to never lose another election until a couple conservative justices die while Dems control the Senate, is so obviously doomed it's hardly worth commenting on. Laughable and pathetic way for our ability to self-govern to die, real late-Byzantine Empire shit
Defiance!@mtsw What can be done? Wouldn't legislation (my preferred approach to this stuff) also wind up in the courts, with the same fate? Been trying to think of what Dems or anyone else can do here besides a lot of performative outrage and in-fighting.
Andy Pearlman@Defiance @mtsw basically, Biden has to say something to the effect of "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it." on something that at least 70% of the country can agree strongly on and is easily implemented by the government.
SCOTUS looks like they're headed there on something by 2024.
Clinical Rawlsian@apearlma @Defiance @mtsw 100%. Biden can either ignore the court and run in 2024 on "I defied an illegitimate and partisan court that was trying to strike down legislation duly and lawfully enacted by the elected representatives of the American people" or he can run on "I wanted to help you guys out, but those mean old conservatives on the court wouldn't let me. What are you gonna do, am I right?"
@apearlma @Defiance @mtsw The six conservative SCOTUS justices have left Biden no option but to ignore their illegitimate, partisan rulings. If he does not, Biden is essentially acknowledging that American democracy is completely dead and that we are going to be governed by the FedSoc six for the rest of our lives.
Clara@MadMadMadMadRN @apearlma @Defiance @mtsw
I disagree about our options. Democracy’s strength is not centered in the president. It’s not strategic to think that Biden must do something (particularly something that violates fundamental principles of democracy) or else all hope is lost.
Democracy’s strength is in the hands of voters. We vote for the law makers— the ones who write the laws. We vote for the people who can expand the Supreme Court. Biden can’t do that— but Congress can. Our votes are power. So if you want to kick the GOP in the nuts or teach the SCOTUS a lesson, work for candidates. Work at a voting center. Everything comes back to votes. Vote.
@claraeroberts @apearlma @Defiance @mtsw
Hillary Clinton won more votes than Donald Trump.
Al Gore won more votes than George W. Bush
@MadMadMadMadRN @apearlma @Defiance @mtsw
Yes.
Our country was born from oppression. The traditions that the GOP loves are OPPRESSIVE. It is a terrible, deadly struggle to get rid of the oppression.