#MastodonNews Feb 27, 2023

More Mammoth news...

TechCrunch: Mammoth is a free Mastodon app for iOS that makes it easier to get started >>> https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/27/mammoth-is-a-free-mastodon-app-for-ios-that-makes-it-easier-to-get-started/

A new Mastodon app called Mammoth has already gained 10,000 downloads in the first few days of its availability on the App Store.

"Simply: we want to contribute to Mastodon having 10m active users, then 100m. It’s early days still, and we don’t want to do anything that slows down adoption,”

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Update:

While "free" it seems that Mammoth [edit: encourages] users to register on their instance moth.social. They present this as "simplifying" sign-up, but some counter this is antithetical to the decentralized nature of the fediverse.

While currently "free" at some point this will change to a subscription model: "Therefore, we likely will have a subscription, but it won’t stop you from enjoying the app if you’re not paying. We don’t have all the details or the timing figured out yet.”

Update 2:

Correction. It seems that users are not required to register on moth.social. Rather they are encouraged to use moth.social by the way the sign up process works. Apparently it is possible to use Mammoth with other instances. Check out below for more discussion.

@mastodonmigration it doesn’t require it, but does put their instance top of the list. That instance is also running their own fork that has a “suggested users” list from multiple other instances. No idea if any of these people or instance admins were asked.

https://github.com/TheBLVD/moth.social/blob/main/app/lib/onboarding/onboarding_categories_production.yml

moth.social/onboarding_categories_production.yml at main · TheBLVD/moth.social

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@mastodonmigration @stuart I was asked, they were very thoughtful about it. I think making this stuff easier for more users is a great win for the fediverse.
@mastodonmigration I don't have a problem with developers asking money for their work. If you don't want to pay, fine. The Mastodon web app will always be free.

@mastodonmigration Huh? I didn’t sign up for any new account, just switched to login view and told it my existing account. Later I told it about a second alt account I have.

Nothing is required, I’m not sure why everybody in this thread is rushing to judgement without verifying. The UI seemed pretty normal to me. Like many apps it starts in new user mode.

@mastodonmigration who actually objects to a client app making it easier for users who don’t have a fediverse account to be able to create one?
@anildash @mastodonmigration exactly this. if you’re concerned about vertical integration between client app and instance, then you’re missing the forest for the tree.
@anildash @mastodonmigration thinking about this again…since vertical integration (VI) *is* a move for control, i can see the reason for concern in a decentralized model. but if you’re concerned about VI, then the questions that need asking center around *how much* control any one *instance* has over the fediverse and whether VI is the reason for that control. if VI is at risk of becoming a corruptive force for the fediverse, then sure. but otherwise, why is improving UX ever a bad thing?