@notjustbikes

Lists. Use lists. Separate the high-volume from the interest.

Be your own algorithm.

@video_manager I sorted (some of) my followed accounts into lists. After doing that I basically never opened the lists again - they are so inconvenient and out of the way it's almost insulting.

To make it worse, lists don't work retroactively -- i.e. if I make a new list now called "People who don't spam" and add some of my followed accounts to it, the list would still be empty - I have to wait until they post something new. So I can't easily judge whether the list is what I want it to be.

@neatnit

"out of the way" - unless you pin them in the Advanced Web Interface (or equivalent)

@video_manager Honestly the lack of instant feedback for the list's resulting "vibe" is the bigger concern to me.

@neatnit

You didn't have instant feedback the day you started. You didn't have everything the day you started Twitter, either.

@video_manager What? I genuinely don't understand what you tried to say here.

@neatnit

Expecting a new experience to instantly have the feel of something you've used for any length of time is an unreasonable expectation. You don't start using ANYTHING - Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, AOL, UseNet- with the final experience. Why demand Fediverse/Mastodon instantly create your experience for you?

@video_manager You misunderstood, or perhaps I didn't explain myself properly. I am talking about how a list I make today won't show me what it would have looked like today if I had made it a month ago. It doesn't work as a filter to the home feed. And that really dissuades me from using that feature.

@neatnit

No it *doesn't* filter the home feed. So? Create one list with the stuff you want to "just see flow", another you want to focus on, and turn OFF (unpin) the home feed. Voila! Filtered.

@video_manager try this right now - make a NEW list, add 3 or 4 of your followed accounts to it, and see what you get - a big fat nothing.

@neatnit

How full was your home feed 30 seconds after you joined Mastodon?

@video_manager wow this is like talking to a wall

@neatnit

So you're saying your home feed showed you a long list of toots for you to evaluate the instant you joined Mastodon?

@video_manager I'm going to sleep. If you want to know what I mean I suggest you actually read what I wrote above. Every word - there weren't many.

@neatnit

At no point whatever have I said otherwise.

So What?

Wait. Let it get populated. You put accounts on that list for a reason. I have to assume you had a *reason* to do so, and an *expectation* of what the results would be. Do you somehow doubt your own choices?

As analogy, a new mastodon account won't have anything in their home timeline until they follow accounts - i.e. add accounts to a *LIST* - the following list - AND new toots come in.

How is this different in any way?