Dave Winer ☕️Feb 3, 2023
You can’t trust corporate APIs. The only ones you can trust are open APIs that aren’t owned by anyone -- like the web, http, html, rss. You have to watch out because the bigco’s will try to own those too. To a large extent Google already owns the web. And they are throwing their weight around in much more consequential ways than twitter. But Google is invisble to the press. That will end someday.
Show threadDr Brian of London (Dev)🖥Feb 4, 2023

@davew there are some APIs and systems and protocols which are not owned by corporations but have self sustaining economic reasons why they continue to work.

These are gems in the rough. This is the basis for the Podping notification system we're using to signal rss feed updates and going live for livestreaming podcasts.

Show threadDave Winer ☕️Feb 4, 2023

@brianoflondon

How does it compare to rssCloud?

https://github.com/scripting/reallysimple/blob/main/demos/clouddemo/readme.md

reallysimple/readme.md at main · scripting/reallysimple

A Node package that reads RSS, Atom and RDF feeds and calls back with a simple, consistent JavaScript object. - reallysimple/readme.md at main · scripting/reallysimple

GitHub
Show threadDr Brian of London (Dev)🖥Feb 4, 2023

@davew Podping replaces WebSub with something that doesn't rely on Google or SuperFeedr i.e. it doesn't rely on big tech.

It is trivial to "watch" the stream of podpings by watching the blocks on the public Hive blockchain and via multiple redundant public API servers or running your own "node" of Hive can be done for <$50 per month but this isn't necessary.

From this river of podpings you can take action and rescan any RSS feed you're interested in.

Hosting co's send the signals out.

Show threadDave Winer ☕️Feb 4, 2023

@brianoflondon

You didn’t answer my question.

Show threadDr Brian of London (Dev)🖥Feb 4, 2023

@davew I can't understand how rssCloud is supposed to be run and by whom? Is it needed to be run by every rss feed host and how does it give a single place to look for updates to all rss feeds? If each host runs that service do I have to look somewhere for a list of such servers to check?

I'm just not sure what rssCloud does from those docs but I could be missing something.

Show threadDave Winer ☕️

@brianoflondon

Read the docs and the code, and ask for help if you need it.

Reinventing existing protocols isn’t something to be proud of.

I’m going to mute you so no point responding.

Feb 4, 2023 at 10:10pmWeb
Show threadDr Brian of London (Dev)🖥Feb 5, 2023

. @davew protocol is 1/5 of the problem.

4/5ths is the business model to keep the servers running.

This is what dinosaurs like you missed in the early days and why you watched helplessly as most open systems were captured by surveillance capitalism and Web 2.0.

The answer of pointing someone at server software and telling them to RTFM is EXACTLY why you're an angry man shouting at Google instead of actually doing something about it.