Dave Winer ☕️Feb 3, 2023
You can’t trust corporate APIs. The only ones you can trust are open APIs that aren’t owned by anyone -- like the web, http, html, rss. You have to watch out because the bigco’s will try to own those too. To a large extent Google already owns the web. And they are throwing their weight around in much more consequential ways than twitter. But Google is invisble to the press. That will end someday.
Show threadSteve Yelvington

@davew

My favorite example is Google's pushing AMP as a way "to help webpages load faster" when it was Google's nightmarish advertising and surveillance code that was slowing down the Web in the first place.

Feb 3, 2023 at 4:17pmWeb
Show threadJared SmithFeb 3, 2023
@steve @davew AMP was a scourge. My company faced a lot of pressure to implement AMP, and I was really proud of the pushback my team made against it in favor of investing in the open web. Ended up working out quite well.
Show threadRyuno-KiFeb 7, 2023

@jaredwsmith
The last major project (a news outlet) insisted on implementing AMP - even when Alphabet announced its EoL!

Pointed to analytics that showed how much traffic it generated.

@steve @davew

Show threadMatt TerenzioFeb 8, 2023
@RyunoKi @jaredwsmith @steve @davew There isn't anything about AMP that is anti-web. It's still way better than 99% of the news sites, that are practically un-usable.
And things like caching on the edge have no feasible replacement that I've seen.
But, you see, since it isn't being supported I'm not building on it.
That's life on the open web/
Show threadRyuno-KiFeb 8, 2023

@librenews

I'm on the fence here.

AMP has some good ideas that led to faster loading times etc.

But I don't want to have that as dedicated build + hosted on Google servers.

The web is more than Google

@jaredwsmith @steve @davew

Show threadMatt TerenzioFeb 8, 2023
@RyunoKi @jaredwsmith @steve @davew I hear ya. Just wish it went another way, but in. time we'll figure other ways to handle some of the good stuff it proposed
Show threadJared SmithFeb 8, 2023

@RyunoKi @librenews @steve @davew Yeah, at the end of the day it makes my skin crawl at just how much of an extortion racket Google made web dev in the 2010s through its search products.

Edit: And to be fair, web developers did not do themselves any favors with JavaScript maximalism, the implementation of SPAs on 99% of sites that weren’t good use cases for them, etc.

Show threadRyuno-KiFeb 8, 2023

@jaredwsmith

I build a reputation for ranting against Angular. Even it'll cost me some contracts. 😅

@librenews @steve @davew

Show threadJarOCats™ 🏳️‍🌈Feb 3, 2023
@steve @davew Not to mention pushing AMP in the wake of shutting down its RSS reader (which I still miss today).