drVThis doesn't seem like a step in the right direction...
Ben Lee-Cohen@drV well fuck that. Debian and Alpine on the server for me, again.
chebraA paid security patch for... jQuery UI?!
JP 
@drV never seen this before. Went to the website. Pro is free for individual users - up to 5 machines. Still a little creepy and def a step in the wrong direction - SaaS-like?
Michael Dexter@drV
At this rate, I'm starting to think that around 1% of GPL adopters/exploiters understand the GPL. And half of that 1% use it in conjunction with a proprietary versions of the same code to go after 'big' users. Not that Canonical can do that with GNU/Linux, but... this is not the software freedom utopia we were sold.
At this rate, I'm starting to think that around 1% of GPL adopters/exploiters understand the GPL. And half of that 1% use it in conjunction with a proprietary versions of the same code to go after 'big' users. Not that Canonical can do that with GNU/Linux, but... this is not the software freedom utopia we were sold.
NiceMicro@dexter @drV what do you mean? The GPL has nothing to say on monetization. It is free, as in you are free to charge money for your services or indeed for the software. You aren't forced to share GPL'd code with anyone, let alone everyone.
The GPL basically states that whenever you distribute the software (either original or modified version), you MUST make the source code available.
@nicemicro
I don't think I have a single GPL code powered device that fully provides complete and coresponding code per the license.
@drV
I don't think I have a single GPL code powered device that fully provides complete and coresponding code per the license.
@drV
@dexter @drV the GPL does not prescribe to distribute the source code with the binary, it only prescribes that it is made available per request.
So technically, if you have to request it through fax, and they deliver it to you printed on toilet paper, that is GPL compliant.
I do not know, if Ubuntu Pro users can get the source code or not. I would guess, they do. And I would also guess it is way easier to get it than the method I described above.
@dexter To be clear, it is perfectly fine to criticize the GPL license to have this kind of loophole in it.
And you can also criticize canonical for ubuntu pro, if you don't like it. But it is inaccurate to say, that they are breaking the GPL based on the evidence presented.
And you can also criticize canonical for ubuntu pro, if you don't like it. But it is inaccurate to say, that they are breaking the GPL based on the evidence presented.
@nicemicro
I indeed forgot about the "upon request" aspect which... falls right down if the organization that provided it goes away. You retain the perpetual right to the source code as a user yet that may be impossible to deliver on.
All very fascinating.
@dexter yeah, it is very fascinating. I understand why they didn't specify how you have to make the code available, but it does have some weird loopholes.
Shlee booped around &
Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒
rolenthedeep
Metal.Smurf@drV similar here
The following security updates require Ubuntu Pro with 'esm-apps' enabled:
imagemagick libopenexr25 libmagickcore-6.q16-6-extra libmagickwand-6.q16-6
imagemagick-6.q16 libmagickcore-6.q16-6 imagemagick-6-common
Learn more about Ubuntu Pro at https://ubuntu.com/pro
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
using VERSION="22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)"
[Ubuntu MATE]
never seen it target specific software packages before
Dr. Guillermo Power 
@drv the only time I met Mark Shuttleworth in person I asked him about people paying for support. This change goes against what he told me at the time, he seemed more interested in people using Ubuntu than chasing every last dollar.
Jorge Cornejo 
@drV You can get #UbuntuPro up to 5 users for free. "Free for personal use
Anyone can use Ubuntu Pro for free on up to 5 machines, or 50 if you are an official Ubuntu Community member."
Tony Yarusso@drV Big yikes there… No, thanks.
Erik Tuchtfeld@drV Just as context (the situation is not worsening, it's only not improving without the subscription): https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/10qbvg2/comment/j6phu7t/
