DavidJan 29, 2023
Mastodon•ART 🎨 Curator

We're defederating from newsie.social, because they're deliberately ('we don't silence 'different opinions') not moderating a transphobic user that's been reported from several instances and is actively harassing people.

We'll lift this suspension if newsie.social decide that maybe they shouldn't provide a platform for that kind of bigotry and that transphobia is not a 'difference in opinion'.

Jan 21, 2023 at 6:31amWeb
Show threadMastodon•ART 🎨 CuratorJan 21, 2023

https://newsie.social/@jeff/109723786416370379

https://newsie.social/@tqwhite/109708455446742056

Receipts.

Jeff (@[email protected])

@[email protected] Because limiting speech you don't like or disagree with isl limiting legitimate public discourse. If it's respectful and in good faith.

Newsie Social
Show threadBlake C. StaceyJan 21, 2023
@Curator "Because limiting speech you don't like or disagree with [is] limiting legitimate public discourse [if the speech is] respectful and in good faith." I believe this is what Hamlet calls "a plentiful lack of wit." Failing to see through a respectful tone to the bigotry underneath is a failure at doing one's job as a journalist.
Show threadwhetstoneJan 21, 2023
@Curator I “do not have permission to view that page” on the link to the transphobe. Can anyone see it, or has it been deleted or made private somehow?
Show threadLaukidhJan 21, 2023
@Curator they seem to be trying the “you didn’t say the magic words” argument now.
Show threadMastodon•ART 🎨 CuratorJan 21, 2023
@Laukidh um
Show threadNotMyBub Jan 21, 2023
@Laukidh @Curator So I guess the consensus is a fediblock? I didn't see the original posts for context.
Show threadSolarbird Jan 21, 2023
@Curator I was checking for updates on this and I show tqwhite as suspended now?
Show threadMastodon•ART 🎨 CuratorJan 21, 2023
@moira Yeah, see https://infosec.exchange/@Laukidh/109728149276166787
Laukidh :ablobcool: :donor: (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image @[email protected] they seem to be trying the “you didn’t say the magic words” argument now.

Infosec Exchange
Show threadSolarbird Jan 21, 2023

@Curator I promise I'm not trying to be obtuse - is the banned person the problem person? That's what I thought was going on.

And is the concensus still defederate even they did move, even if it took a fight? Or no?

Show threadMastodon•ART 🎨 CuratorJan 21, 2023
@moira It's okay :) Yes the banned person was the problem person, but they only got actioned apparently after someone said the magic 'harassment' words even though the account had been reported a bunch of times from a variety of instances for being transphobic and should have been actioned on that alone. The admin did say he wouldn't moderate transphobia because it's a 'difference of opinion' so possibly only does something if someone says 'harassment'.
Show threadYiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaintJan 21, 2023
@Curator good choice
Show threadMartin Vermeer FCDJan 21, 2023
@Curator Journalists 😬
Show threadHelen PlettsJan 21, 2023
@Curator love to you 🥰 for keeping the hate off x
Show threadRobinJan 21, 2023
@Curator who is the moderator/originator of newsie.social? They came up early in my feed when I first joined Mastodon (and my default timeline was full of white men chatting with/boosting each other.) I felt I didn’t know enough to “join in” and was interested in other sources. They chase attention/donations a lot.
Show threadmdhh_usa 🇺🇸Jan 21, 2023

@Curator

👏👏👏👏👏

Show threadSweekJan 21, 2023
@Curator "If you don't take a firm stance against bigotry, we'll take a firm stance against you" is such a perfect way to put it. Much respect.
Show threadMastodon•ART 🎨 CuratorJan 21, 2023
@sweek <3
Show threadMichael KroesJan 21, 2023
@Curator @mwl transphobia needs to stop. Very well worded
Show threadMichaelJan 21, 2023
@Curator Here's hoping others follow suit. Those people can stay on Twitter if that's how they want to behave.
Show threadZitronenkaffeeJan 21, 2023
@Curator thank you for this!
Show threadJan K.Jan 21, 2023
@Zitronenkaffee @Curator And that's why I like being here so much.
Show threadZitronenkaffeeJan 21, 2023
@Nihtgenga @Curator it's the best place. 🥰 
Show threadTammy GentzelJan 21, 2023
@Curator I am working to come up with an explanation as to why one is an opinion and the other is destructive and should not be tolerated. Right now, I am testing “If your statement includes the belief that a person does not exist as they say they exist, then your statement is not an opinion, it attacks a person’s very being and will not be tolerated.” 1
Show threadTammy GentzelJan 21, 2023
@Curator To those who respond, “I exist and I believe (category of people don’t exist as they say they do) therefore you are being destructive towards me.” No. Enforcing rules against bigotry does not attack your existence, it attacks your bigotry. 2
Show threadBryan HanselJan 21, 2023
@Curator that guy is a real piece of work.
Show threadKazii The AvaliJan 21, 2023
@Curator they should remeber that silencing harasment is not silencing diffrienting opionions and you can have diffrenting opionions withoit harasment. good on you curator
Show thread Why Not Zoidberg? 🦑Jan 21, 2023
@Curator When "journalists" end up on the Alt-Right side of Freeze Peas they are doing it wrong.
Show threadCrow Girl AnjaJan 21, 2023

@ProPublica The server you're hosted on is giving a pass to transphobia dressed as journalism, in violation of the Mastodon Covenant, and other servers are starting to defederate from it as a result. You may want to consider talking to them about that or seeking another home.

@Curator

Show threadRuss SharekJan 21, 2023

@Curator

Thank you for taking such good care of us.

Show threadPer Helge BerrefjordJan 21, 2023

@Curator
Full support to Mastodon.ART curator on the newsie.social debacle. I had the «pleasure» more than twenty years ago running a journalist mailinglist.

Journalists are the hardest! For several reasons. Talking Heads and so on. Privileged. No more.

In the Fediverse any lazy instance (without proper curating) will become the odd hideout for the so inclined. As always.

Big Deal? No, and Yes: When the somebody on your door is just part of a bigger deal, may be even a nobody.

Show threadTony StarkJan 23, 2023

@Curator democracy.town users and followers should know we’ll be joining this soon if no action is taken.

Reports have been made from here on this matter and another post from the same user implying that Jewish people should quiet down and enjoy Christmas which isn’t how we work.

Show threadSean TilleyJan 29, 2023
@Curator Seriously, the journo instances absolutely suck at this.