A new F-150 is just a minivan with a doorless trunk.
Even the new Chrysler Pacifica minivan has more "bed" space than a new F-150 🤣
@FuckCarsReddit last week I moved a treadmill in our minivan because my dad’s F150 wouldn’t have been able to.
@FuckCarsReddit I love hauling 10 ft boards in my minivan while some trucko is busy tying them down to their lumber rack.
@FuckCarsReddit this has a lot to do with the American obsession with size and the US being the biggest car consumer in the west and probably the world.

@FuckCarsReddit I drove a Subaru kei van for 6 years, moved twice with it and it was just as practical as you say 👍

Also the F150 you show has the 2door back seats, the four door' crew' aka kid cab version is even more the minivan for macho posturers

@FuckCarsReddit i think the VW T3 (or maybe even the current transporter) are a fairer comparison.
This is for all my reply guys who claim to be special snowflakes that use their roofless minivans for work stuff 💅

@FuckCarsReddit You're right in that most people who have trucks don't need them.

However, if you live way, way out in a rural area far outside the delivery range of any retailers, and you purchase a washing machine or a refrigerator, you would need a way to transport it home.

I hope that your understanding leaves room for nuances like that.

@mostly_harmless @FuckCarsReddit I've moved a fridge and a washing machine in a Mazda 2 Neo. You don't need a truck for those tasks.
@xssfox That's pretty impressive. Should have taken a picture.
@mostly_harmless @FuckCarsReddit so for a once-in-10-years purchase, you have to own such a monster of a car instead of, say, renting a van for a day? 🤔

@janeckhoff No, you would do exactly what rural people do, own a vehicle capable of hauling that once-in-ten-years purchase as well as all the other once-in-ten-years purchases that a normal family has to make like mattresses, furniture, ovens, generators, etc.

If you had to rent a truck every time you bought something you would spend a fortune.

If you can only afford one vehicle, the cost-effective solution is to have a vehicle that can serve that role as well as the role of personal vehicle.

@mostly_harmless wouldn’t call that a nuance though, more like a grave systemic problem.

@janeckhoff By "systemic problem" you mean geography?

I mean, Montana exists. Montanans exist, too.

They're not going to voluntarily live like cavemen just to satisfy your needs.

Are you saying those Montanans are a "systemic problem".

What kind of solutions to this problem are you proposing? Are they final?

@mostly_harmless interesting that you’re suggesting exactly one direction of thought and then follow it through, as if it’s the only thing I could have possibly meant. Doesn’t really feel like a „good faith“ approach. I think I won’t continue talking to you. Have a great week.

@janeckhoff To rent a truck to haul a refrigerator 400 km would cost several hundred dollars.

You're talking about adding 40-50% to the price of a large appliance. That places the refrigerator out of reach for that family.

You're talking about effectively imposing a massive punitive and debilitating tax on a family based where they live.

Not going to happen. If the Dutch have to watch their country sink so that a Montana family can have a refrigerator, then that's how it's going to go down.

@FuckCarsReddit
I'm sorry, what the actual fart is "pleasure driving"?

Just polluting as a special treat?

@FuckCarsReddit it gets even funnier

the concept version of the electric Ram actually has a third row, making it even more of a minivan for the insecure: https://insideevs.com/news/640676/check-out-ram-1500-revolution-bev-concept-third-row-jump-seats/
Check Out Ram 1500 Revolution BEV Concept's Third-Row Jump Seats

If the third-row seats go into production on the 2024 Ram 1500 electric truck, it could push rivals to extract more passenger space as well from their trucks.

InsideEVs
@bhtooefr @FuckCarsReddit So at that point it's really a decorative flatbed to make the car look rugged, just like the decorative spoiler that makes a car look sporty.