Dave Troy Jan 25, 2023

1/Please note this slide from a Mike Flynn event this past weekend, calling for "US dollar crash, gold & silver multiply" as part of unlocking the "third seal of Revelation."

Flynn and Bannon have been nurturing this strategy for at least the last two years, and they see debt default as the path to fulfill this prophecy.

Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023
2/To them, this "US dollar crash" is a sure thing, because they are engineering it via the debt default. And they expect gold and silver to jump in value as a result. That's why they are all pushing gold through a company whose CFO used to work for Oleg Deripaska.
https://washingtonspectator.org/conservatives-hawk-birch-gold/
Conservatives Hawk “Birch Gold” In Run-Up to Debt Ceiling Crisis | Washington Spectator

For the last several years, prominent conservatives including Dr. Ron Paul, Steve Bannon, and Ben Shapiro, have been promoting gold and gold-backed assets to their audiences. One company in particular…

Washington Spectator
Show threadDave Troy 
3/While this strategy may not work out as they expect or go to plan, it is unmistakeable what they are pursuing. And lots of damage can be caused in pursuit of this agenda. Again, why leave to chance what you can engineer? And the plan will be to blame the coming economic collapse on Biden and the Democrats, all while promoting tribalization and dehumanization in preparation for civil war. This is from Flynn's 5G warfare book for "citizens."
Jan 25, 2023 at 4:04pmWeb
Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023

4/All this is hard to digest and causes most people to experience cognitive dissonance — the pain that comes from being asked to believe something that doesn't fit past experience or expectations. But this is what we need to be prepared for if we want to block this set of strategies. It's been brewing for at least two years and the signals have been consistent throughout.

Remember that in August 2001, the idea of 19 guys flying planes into buildings sounded pretty unbelievable.

Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023

5/And please note: this is far beyond just "grifting" or scamming. This is total strategic alignment with hostile foreign powers in the context of a total global war. It is essential to think about this at planet-scale. It's not a US, GOP, political, or even religious concern — it is nothing less than an attempt to split the world in half, using any means or rhetoric necessary.

More on that splitting strategy here.
https://washingtonspectator.org/combatting-putins-war/

Combatting Putin’s War with a Vision for the West | Washington Spectator

War, beyond being just a struggle for territory, is a process. Long-running wars, in particular, have the potential to transform geopolitics, and this is playing out in Putin’s war in Ukraine.

Washington Spectator
Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023
6/I just spoke with a contact who was at this Flynn event in Nashville last weekend, and who confirms that the dollar crash, debt default, and pumping gold + silver is at the top of their current agenda. This is not just speculation on my part, but what they are actually talking about amongst themselves. Bannon has an "End of the Dollar Empire" booklet you can request from Birch Gold! Pay attention!
Show threadLisaJan 25, 2023

@davetroy That's extremely disturbing, but am I not surprised?

It's been evident for some time that they've had their own evil, personal agenda. Bannon needs stopped along w/Flynn and others.

Show threadLady GeeJan 25, 2023
@MiaLis79 @davetroy Musk was in on killing the dollar and replacing it with crypto as well
Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023

@travellovewine @MiaLis79 yes, wrote about all that here.

https://washingtonspectator.org/paranoia-on-parade/

Paranoia on Parade | Washington Spectator

How reactionary grievances have helped bring America’s democracy to the brink of collapse

Washington Spectator
Show threadLisaJan 25, 2023

@davetroy @travellovewine
Just began reading your article Dave, will get back to it later so I can take it all in.

From what I've read so far, tons of history to back up facts & excellent. This must have been very time consuming- or you have the gift of history residing inside your brain.

Thanks, looking forward to getting back to your article.

Show threadLisaJan 26, 2023

@davetroy

Many prominent names contained within your article.

It appears that many people, both Corporate & Christian nationalists along with others would love to see our Democracy fall.

It's scary to think how many years ago this all began & the players involved.

Names ppl will recognize now: Flynn, Bannon, Trump, Kochs, Devos, Eric Prince, Republicans named & some Democrats as well.
#bitcoin #Gold #Fascism #Democracy

Worth reading.

Show threadMartha HowellJan 25, 2023
@davetroy
When is that man actually going to be put in prison?
Show threadDr. Emma L Briant🐕🇬🇧in🇦🇺Jan 25, 2023
@davetroy my god that must’ve taken some work to get Bannon to look vaguely human there… extensive work with airbrush and photoshop I presume.
Show threadGeoWendJan 25, 2023

@davetroy

For amusement, this is what I saw first, and was....also concerned.

Show threadDemocracyMatters Jan 25, 2023
@davetroy It's just stunning that we are so powerless against Bannon and Flynn--the worst traitors of our lifetimes.
Show threadChopinsHeart ⚛️ Jan 25, 2023

@davetroy

If we order this to “take a look,” are we on their mail list then?
Best to avoid that in your experience?

Dave, what constitutes “pressure” to break up structures like this; a combination of people talking on mastodon, watching TED talks, press…is it all these things or are we just waiting for the “law” to slowly turn?

I’m asking a huge question of course. But is legal activity the only gage of progress?

Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023
@Chopinsheart oh, don’t bother. I have a copy. I’ll post later. Meantime, shifting popular opinion is useful and will happen if enough people are talking about a specific threat.
Show threadParanoid FactoidJan 26, 2023
@davetroy @Chopinsheart Very much want to read
Show threadnedhamsonJan 26, 2023
@davetroy grifting is their way to rob whomever they can with hate as their bait
Show threadRobin from Colorado 🇺🇸🇺🇦Jan 26, 2023
@davetroy attempting to make God’s prophesies come true is a grave sin. He instructed us to trust and that we would not know the time. This is a suicide pact.
Show threadCypherCJan 26, 2023
@davetroy If the Dollar crashes, why would the average person, be they business owner craftsperson or farmer, accept gold or silver as payment for goods/services? I would think they would be more willing to accept items that they could use or trade to others, such as steel/aluminum, magnifying lenses(which can be used to start a fire), solar powered items, and so forth.
Show threadDeb ProtheroJan 26, 2023
@davetroy What is the best strategy for central banks and governments to hold steady.
Show threadBavariaNephroJan 26, 2023

@davetroy @TheodoreSeuss

@BlumeEvolution das kommt mir dank Ihnen alles irgendwie bekannt vor (Degussa).

Was unterscheidet eine echte Verschwörung (zB möglicherweise diese hier) vom Mythos?

Show threadMichael BlumeJan 26, 2023

@BavariaNephro Echte Verschwörungen sind begrenzt und imperfekt.

Gold-Crashprophezeiungen gibt es seit Jahrzehnten ständig. Habe mal dazu geschrieben. 👇

@davetroy @TheodoreSeuss https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2021-04/querdenken-verschwoerer-mythologie-bargeld-antisemitismus-michael-blume

Querdenken: Die libertäre Verschwörungsmythologie des Geldes

Die Ideologen der Querdenker-Bewegung fabulieren vom "Weltsystemcrash" und einer Übermacht der Notenbanken. Das verbinden sie mit Verschwörungsmythen und Antisemitismus.

ZEIT ONLINE
Show threadKlassikerJan 26, 2023
@davetroy Every few years there's a new attempt from the fascists to dismantle the FIAT currencies.
What they never include in their thinking is, the hardest currency is military power.
When all is said and done, every country will back the dollar, debt default or not, because the military is so mighty, it can take on the rest of the world combined and still win (as manpower is a marginal contributor in modern days for military might).
Show thread🇺🇦 Sean Prophet ⚛Jan 26, 2023

@davetroy

"Birch Gold Group"

If this isn't connected to the John Birch Society, it would be an incredible coincidence.

This has been the agenda of these goons for 50+ years. My parents were deep into this shit.

Show threadDave Troy Jan 26, 2023

@sean yeah, it appears to be a nod to JBS. And yes, I recall that Summit Lighthouse had a very deep affinity for gold. Didn’t your mother buy the ranch in Gardiner from Steve Forbes? He ran on the gold standard in ‘96.

https://www.summitlighthouse.org/pearls/2010pows/PW101201GG.html

Vol. 53 No. 23 - The Beloved God of Gold with the God Tabor - December 1, 2010

The Flow of Energy in the City Foursquare

Show thread🇺🇦 Sean Prophet ⚛Jan 26, 2023

@davetroy

We bought the ranch from Malcolm Forbes, not Steve.

But yes, there was a for-profit arm of The Summit Lighthouse called Lanello Reserves that was into gold and silver.

Got into huge trouble with trading silver on heavy margin. Lost millions and got sued by the brokerage firm, which ended up costing TSL its tax exemption, leading to the founding of the successor organization Church Universal and Triumphant.

That org lost its tax exemption for one year back in 1991 due to improper commingling of funds and an illegal weapons deal.

Now they are back to The Summit Lighthouse. Ugh.

Show threadDave Troy Jan 26, 2023

@sean right, I meant Malcolm. Who was also a goldbug IIRC. Was he also an I AM guy?

Interesting about Lanello Reserves… I didn’t know that. Was that a collaboration with the Hunt Brothers/JBS silver squeeze ~1973-1980 or did they pursue it independently?

Show thread🇺🇦 Sean Prophet ⚛Jan 26, 2023

@davetroy

Had nothing to do with the Hunts. Our fiasco happened in 1973-1974. It was my stepfather who was doing the trading and he really had no idea what he was doing. Like every other dumb trader out for a buck, seemed like a genius when the market was going up!

Show threadDave Troy Jan 26, 2023
@sean yeah, as best I can tell that entire network got the idea that investing in gold, silver, and real estate was in vogue at that time (because of the inflation bogeyman), so they ended up mirroring each other's activity, which was great until it wasn't. And as you suggest, many of them got snagged by getting way over-leveraged.
Show thread🇺🇦 Sean Prophet ⚛Jan 26, 2023

@davetroy

What seems to be impossible to make these people understand is that gold and silver are commodities and can NEVER be money.

Furthermore, as commodities they rise and fall with supply and demand. They do no work on their own, they're totally passive, so there's never a possibility of return on investment.

They don't function as a hedge against inflation. Long term the charts are relatively flat, and if you need to pull money out of your investment for anything practical you would use to live (rather than commodity hoarding), you can easily get caught in a market downturn. Even during an inflationary cycle!

After watching my parents have that experience I'd never buy precious metals as an investment for any reason. It's pure horror, where fortunes go to die.

The first image is long term silver, the second is the long term stock market. Which is why people should be investing in the stock market.

Show threadGurtbeef RobeJan 27, 2023
@davetroy 1. this is exactly what Manson did. He kept preaching a race war that didn’t happen so he tried to make one happen while simultaneously getting his personal revenge for not being signed to a record label. 2. Flynn is still paid by the military fyi.
3. There never was “peace on earth” like they claim in #2.
4. Conservatives have been pushing gold & silver for decades. Glenn Beck got in trouble for this I think
Show threadDavidPetraitisJan 25, 2023
@davetroy Thanks for this strategic view. Shared in FB.
Show threadKlassikerJan 25, 2023
@davetroy A major hindrance for the strategy of the deplorable pack is the success of the Ukraine against Russia.
It really throws a wrench into the plans when half the countries, that would be expected to go with China and the Saudis to the russian side (the african block and the south-east asian one along with the middle east) sees this performance and is not so eager to have to face the US military when they try to change the oil standard or something of the like.
Show threadKlassikerJan 25, 2023
@davetroy so they will not be a sure bet for them to go with. Then there are the opportunists that will always go with the winning side, and that one will very fast be the US, when they just have to shift two or three carriers to the indian ocean or the chinese ocean to clear up some 'misunderstandings'
Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023
@alanthir it's slowing them down, for sure, but it also is providing more time for realignment. Until Russia totally collapses and China normalizes relations with everyone else, there will be a slow drift towards avoidance of US sanctions, if only to minimize hassle. If that comes down to natural resource exhaustion, Russia can remain standing for a very long time.
Show threadKlassikerJan 25, 2023
@davetroy for sure they can, but they also have been outed as a paper tiger. The EU has shifted away from russian ressources by more than 75%, and that's permanent. Russia can't sell the natural ressources to anyone without huge discounts and even then there're not the capacities for selling enough. It's breaking even just by a hairs width, any more downshift in the global energy prices and they will loose with every barrel they sell.
China is also on the loosing end as it seems 1/2
Show threadKlassikerJan 25, 2023
@davetroy the pandemy and there handling of it did create uprisings in some chinese regions, then there is the debt crisis with the housing sector, the banking problems and now the sickness because they don't trust western vaccines.
The Chinese also see that russia is not a reliable partner, and they really have big problems with the water down there.
When a big war breaks out they will not get any more grains. They have huge stockpiles, but those won't last very long.
Actually it's a major f up
Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023
@alanthir yeah, all valid. The real questions are what these networks actually do, and the facts they create in their wake. It is an error to assume that everyone shares the same situational awareness. There is lots of motivated reasoning, poor information, and ongoing resentment that are actively creating facts. And those facts are the ones we have to deal with, not the ones that "should exist" if everyone was operating in the same reality.
Show threadKlassikerJan 25, 2023

@davetroy I 100% concurr with you. All the more important to take our stand and work against all this misinformation PsyOps that are at work. Hard work and sometimes (or most times even) feels like a Sisyphus task, but all the more important.

One of the big problems here is, there is not a big agenda for the side with the truth that glues it together. Many players that all play on different fields it seems. The fascist side did their work in connecting world wide for years now.

Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023
@alanthir yep, and as I mentioned in my column, we need to come up with some sort of coherent and compelling vision for the West that goes beyond the status quo. The US can no longer afford to be seen as a hegemon, so with that comes the necessity and value proposition for a multipolar world order redefined along Western values, and state sovereignty.
Show threadKlassikerJan 25, 2023
@davetroy We first have to get rid of all the russian and chinese assets and spies that did infiltrate our governments and NGO's.
In Germany the russians really did their work in infiltrating every aspect as it seems and even the anti spy organizations.
With them all in key positions there will always be to much of a big anti block to get anything real working.
Sadly I don't see how we can get rid of them without violence as the billionaires and the media empire they own are on their side.
Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023
@alanthir yes, I think that's a key challenge, and one we may not be able to overcome.
Show thread@pennyivyJan 25, 2023
@davetroy @alanthir It seems insurmountable.
Show threadOutOnTheMoorsJan 25, 2023
@davetroy Alternatively, nations like the BRICS countries might be choosing the lesser of two evils in terms of trying to do the best for their own peoples, not the Washington overlords.
Show threadChris FosterJan 25, 2023
@davetroy Timothy Snyder has also written about how a shared vision for the future is crucial to a healthy democracy.
These seem like good questions for the public square:
What do we want the world to look like for our children? What kind of future are we willing to work for? Can we agree that principles are more important than personalities?
Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023
@ChrisF yep. ICYMI I talk about that here.
https://washingtonspectator.org/combatting-putins-war/
Combatting Putin’s War with a Vision for the West | Washington Spectator

War, beyond being just a struggle for territory, is a process. Long-running wars, in particular, have the potential to transform geopolitics, and this is playing out in Putin’s war in Ukraine.

Washington Spectator
Show threadLynne JackierJan 25, 2023
@davetroy
I keep coming back to this: What can individuals do to combat this? Avengers, assemble!
Show threadFlavio Jan 25, 2023
@davetroy So that's the grift related to the debt ceiling? the MAGA wing runs up the price of gold to profit of the misery and uncertainty? Interesting list of endorsors: https://www.birchgold.com/endorsements/
Birch Gold Group Endorsements

Ben Shapiro, Stephen K. Bannon, Ron Paul, Dan Bongino and more have selected Birch Gold as their precious metals company of choice. See why.

Birch Gold Group
Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023
@flavio worse than just grift. Aligned with global strategy for BRICS banking.
https://washingtonspectator.org/conservatives-hawk-birch-gold/
Conservatives Hawk “Birch Gold” In Run-Up to Debt Ceiling Crisis | Washington Spectator

For the last several years, prominent conservatives including Dr. Ron Paul, Steve Bannon, and Ben Shapiro, have been promoting gold and gold-backed assets to their audiences. One company in particular…

Washington Spectator
Show threadSuzanne RushJan 25, 2023
@davetroy Too many elites are already manipulating the stock market without these fanatics running another scam on the public. Historically though, economic collapse almost never happens during a Democratic presidency.
Show threadDave Troy Jan 25, 2023
@suzrush bad strain of thought to rely on. There has never been a bunch of terrorists trying to engineer a total economic collapse during a Democratic presidency before. The closest we came was when McCarthy last tried it in 2011 and got the US credit rating downgraded. This time he has a larger majority.
Show threadSuzanne RushJan 25, 2023
@davetroy Agree. I said "almost" never. It could easily happen for a lot of reasons.
Show threadEarthlingJan 25, 2023

@suzrush @davetroy

....... "during a Democratic presidency". So, because in case Democrats bail out failed corporate US with tax payer money?

Show threadMrsWhatsitJan 25, 2023
@davetroy
⬆️good 🧵
Show threadParanoid FactoidJan 25, 2023
@davetroy I really want to read that book.
Show threadnadin brzezinskiJan 25, 2023
@davetroy Jesus I have seen those charts in COIN material available at your local surplus store.