Paul Haddad Jan 17, 2023
I want to publicly apologize to Twitter for breaking its long-standing API rule of _______.
Manolo AlvarezJan 20, 2023
Show threadPaul Haddad 

Finally some clarity we apparently broke the long standing rule of "use or access the Licensed Materials to create or attempt to create a substitute or similar service or product to the Twitter Applications”.

I guess I didn't realize long standing actually means a couple hours ago, once again I'm deeply sorry.

https://www.engadget.com/twitter-new-developer-terms-ban-third-party-clients-211247096.html

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Jan 19, 2023 at 9:33pmWeb
Show threadGlenn FleishmanJan 19, 2023
@paul I’d argue you’re long sitting, like me (I am currently standing).
Show threadCurious GooseJan 20, 2023
@paul I think this is the end now. Sadly.
Show threadJae BloomJan 19, 2023

@paul Third-party clients are not bad for a service. If anything a third-party client lets me do something that the existing client won’t do.

And nevermind the fact Tweetdeck and Twitter’s app were originally third-party clients….

Show threadN1TeSH1FT  (Chris)Jan 19, 2023

@OneJaeAtATime
Well, third party clients are only bad for a service if they don't show the ads they normally would show on their own client meaning they run the service but don't get the revenues from it.
As far as we're talking about that I can understand the move BUT

@paul and his and other Twitter clients are the ones that made Twitter big. All the big companies use third party clients because the one from Twitter serves only the basic needs.

They should have made an API for the ads.

Show threadwoogerJan 20, 2023
@N1TeSH1FT @paul @OneJaeAtATime every downside of 3rd party apps for Twitter is due to them degrading the api and not adding new features, including ads.
Show threadLeonickJan 20, 2023

@N1TeSH1FT @OneJaeAtATime
It’s so weird that Twitter never put promoted tweets (which is the majority of ads?) in their API.

The new Twitter is cutting corners at every opportunity, so of course the simply kill the API rather than putting in ads or requiring a subscription.

Show threadcirdan12Jan 20, 2023
@Leonick @N1TeSH1FT @OneJaeAtATime It's not really weird at all. I bet a large number of people use the free "official" app that does all that, and 3rd party was a way for people who cared to have a cleaner feed. Those customers wouldn't put up with the bs in the native/web UI so twitter kept those people engaged that would otherwise leave. Just like they are now.
Show threadLeonickJan 20, 2023

@cirdan12 While that may have been a reason I expect it’s just one of many. The largest clients were paid or even subscription.

Killing third party apps at this point will lose them more users than putting ads in the API would.

Show threadCalumJan 20, 2023
@N1TeSH1FT @OneJaeAtATime @paul I guess the question is who would bother using a 3rd-party app with ads…probably even less than use them now. Would rather they’d found a way to let developers and/or their users pay to use the ad-free API however they like.
Show threadN1TeSH1FT  (Chris)Jan 21, 2023
@scottishwildcat @OneJaeAtATime @paul Well actually I don’t use a third party client because it hasn’t got ads in it but because of design, usability and options the original client doesn’t have (like multiple columns or multiple accounts or swipe gestures and so on)
Show threadJae BloomJan 24, 2023
@N1TeSH1FT @scottishwildcat @paul The problem is if Twitter needed ads for API usage for clients, it would’ve been much better to make that a requirement for the apps. They just cut off a huge source of users.
Show threadN1TeSH1FT  (Chris)Jan 24, 2023

@OneJaeAtATime

You’re right but I think Elon thought: It’s much easier. Cut off the third party apps and they’ll all switch to the official App.
I think he is only partly right. Sure some people will switch the client but a lot will switch the platform

Show threadRobert Petersen Jan 19, 2023
@paul My mama always said politeness was a virtue but ya know what? Fuck Elon Musk. Just straight up. Can’t believe I used to like the dude until like 2019 when the cracks started appearing
Show threadChristophe MarleJan 20, 2023
@Sonikku @paul same here, I used to think he was a cool and good guy
Show threadftravaJan 19, 2023
@paul Don't feel down! You didn't let anyone down - they did. No need to apologize, you have nothing to be sorry about!
Show threadFidgetJan 19, 2023
@paul The longstanding unenforced policy we publicly did away with in 2021.
Show threadRichard K NinerJan 19, 2023
@fidget Huh, didn't know they actually dropped that 2011 rule.
Show threadMaple FieldsJan 19, 2023
@paul Yes, the long-standing rule... it was added -2 days from when the tweet was posted.
Show threadPeter van BroekhovenJan 19, 2023
@maplefields @paul "The long-standing rules we haven't made yet."
Show threadGiorgio RomanoJan 19, 2023

@paul honestly, why don’t you sue twitter? I think that this behavior would be a liability for them…

In Europe for sure, in USA I don’t know…

Show threadSawyerJan 19, 2023
@GiorgioRomano @paul Lawsuits are expensive and Space Karen has plenty of cash to throw at them.
Show threadFrançois KahnJan 20, 2023
@spangborn @GiorgioRomano @paul That's how justice "works" most of the time in America (and probably elsewhere). Even if the developers have a rather clean-cut case, Twitter is in a capacity to delay hearings, hire some top attorneys, appeal, etc. while the small companies would be significantly burdened for years by the cost of legal representation, for an ultimately uncertain result. And even if they won, and got allowed again, why stay on a sinking ship?
Show threadKarim Le ValloisJan 19, 2023
@paul Musk is such a tosser!
Show threadOlivier Roux (moose)Jan 19, 2023
@paul what a dick move. Also, why don’t they then ban ALL Twitter 3rd party clients? Instead of only the popular ones…
Show threadAfif R.Jan 20, 2023
@paul @otolithe i’m pretty sure that will be coming
Show threadsanguishJan 19, 2023
@paul what other purpose does the api exist for?
Show threadGeoff GreenJan 19, 2023
@paul time is a flat circle.
Show threadJonathan Rollans Jan 19, 2023
@paul out of morbid curiosity, did they actually contact you and inform you or did you have to read it on Engadget?
Show threadSeanJan 19, 2023
@jrollans @paul Twitter really doesn’t have a PR team or developer relations team anymore.
Show threadFrost「｜｜霜の狼｜人面獣心」🐺❄️Jan 19, 2023

@paul Sooo you're... not allowed to build client apps?

What.

Show threadLuna Dragofelis ΘΔ moved to @[email protected]Jan 19, 2023
@frostwolf @paul that's the norm for most commercial services, twitter was the exception honestly with allowing api access and third party clients
Show threadcirdan12Jan 20, 2023
@LunaDragofelis @paul @frostwolf Most? Like, the web?
Show threadLuna Dragofelis ΘΔ moved to @[email protected]Jan 20, 2023
@cirdan12 @paul @frostwolf I'm thinking of services like Youtube, Instagram, Facebook, Discord, Signal or Whatsapp, which don't allow third party or modified clients.
Show threadAndy CameronJan 19, 2023
@paul I have almost completely stopped using Twitter since Tweetbot was nerfed. This rewriting of history is the final nail in the coffin - farewell Twitter, it’s been a (mostly) fun 16 years.
Show threadAndy CameronJan 19, 2023
@paul Disclaimer: but I reserve the right to return to Twitter to promote Ivory (and Mastodon) to whomever will listen when it’s launched on the App Store.
Show threadCarlos VargasJan 19, 2023
@andcam @paul ditto. That was the day I jumped ship as well.
Show threadRuben CaviniJan 19, 2023
@paul I really hope that mastodon completely takes over, I’m sick of using twitter but a lot of people I follow are still not on mastodon 😤
Show threadjonas lindgrenJan 19, 2023
@PurpleBoo @paul This is the saddest part for me. There’s a lot of people I follow that still haven’t created accounts here. I despise the official Twitter app and will not use it. Unfortunately this means I won’t be able follow these people at all unless they start using mastodon
Show threadWarner CrockerJan 19, 2023
@paul Wonder what words they will redefine next after redfining “long-standing."
Show threadJeff NoxonJan 20, 2023
@WarnerCrocker @paul They’ve always been at war with Eastasia.
Show threadhagenJan 19, 2023
@paul to be fair: at the pace musk is breaking stuff a change made hours ago feels like ages.
Show threadKhaledJan 19, 2023
@paul time travel (professor hulk meme)
Show threadRyanJan 19, 2023
Well, time is relative, I guess. Honestly, what a cowardly and pathetic attempt by Twitter to retrofit the narrative.
Show threadTrevor ClarkJan 19, 2023
@paul RIP Tweetbot, the best of the best. Pull it immediately
Show threadDave NanianJan 19, 2023
@paul Those clowns do put on a hell of a show.
Show threadMykeJan 19, 2023
@paul this is absolutely getting. I was so hopeful Tweetbot would return. Fuck Musk.
Show threadJimmy Thomas Jan 19, 2023
@paul So done with Twitter.
Show threadRené FouquetJan 19, 2023
@paul What a bunch of assholes.
Show threadGrant McConnaugheyJan 19, 2023
@paul I guess that means they’re going to ban Buffer, Hootsuite, Sprout Social, etc. because Twitter.com has built-in Tweet scheduling?
Show threadSkyler BlueJan 19, 2023
@paul Lol ok so they made a new rule and Ex-Post-Facto'd those apps into oblivion
Show threadBad KidJan 19, 2023
@paul oh no. I can’t imagine how you guys are feeling. This is devastating. Tweetbot was the best app on my iPhone. 💔
Show threadCabinet 20 🌱 Jan 19, 2023
@paul I really hope you find as much success on Mastadon. You deserve it after being treated so disgracefully by that absolute scumbag.
Show threadRichard K NinerJan 19, 2023
@paul Seems like par for the course with the current clown running things. Gonna need clairvoyance to figure out Twitter's rule changes.
Show threadKlyxJan 19, 2023
@paul that was the last straw for my decision to leave Twitter behind. I am sorry to see Tweetbot go but I do look forward to use and buy Ivory as soon as it hits the App Store :)
Show threadAnselm  SchumacherJan 19, 2023
@paul Hard decision now. Focus on #Ivory or Tweetbot.
Show threadGerty SteinblattJan 19, 2023
@anselm @paul
Hard like custard?
Show threadAnselm  SchumacherJan 20, 2023

@GertyBz @paul At the end of the day they have to pay their bills. Twitter is still big number 1. Tweetbot has a decade love in it and a massive user base.

Will #Ivory and #Mastodon be able to become important enough for Tapbots to pay off?

Show threadGerty SteinblattJan 20, 2023
@anselm @paul
At this stage only future viewers can know. imma let my Tweetbot sub run for another year, buy Ivory when it's out and hope for the best.
Show threadAnselm  SchumacherJan 20, 2023
@GertyBz @paul So do I
Show threaddermdalyJan 19, 2023
@paul sorry for the inglorious end. It’s a wonderful piece of software; they’ll never take that from you.