KaySo much this:
Lunatech@sable But not all humans have the skills or the ability to make good art using traditional methods, but they can make art by describing their vision into an AI that will then create what they describe. It is still humans making art, they are just using a different tool that allows more humans to make art, not just those that possess a particular skill set and/or the fine motor coordination to make traditional art.
NockerGeek@Lunatech @sable No, it’s not humans “making art”, if all they’re doing is describing what they want. Someone who commissions an artist isn’t considered an artist, and they do the exact same thing. AI image generation fans are just either uninterested in learning art or unwilling to pay a human being to do it. Claiming that AI makes you an artist is like saying reheating a frozen dinner makes you a chef.
@nockergeek @sable Oh and I can't let this pass. You said, "AI image generation fans are just either uninterested in learning art or unwilling to pay a human being to do it."
My response is, "so what?" First of all you are painting all AI image generation fans with the same brush, so to speak, but second even where that is true, so what? If it looks like art to them then that's all that matters. You don't get to define what other people consider art, or music, or poetry, or anything of that nature. Where is your outcry when someone puts paint on their dog's feet and let them walk across a canvas, or lets a monkey throw paint at a canvas and calls that art? The people doing things like that didn't "learn art" and they didn't pay a human being to do it, yet somehow things like that are considered art by some people.
@Lunatech @sable You want "art" as a consumable. You want a machine that makes pictures for you so you can skirt around the idea of dealing with a human. That's all, nothing more, nothing less. You dress it up as "look, I put words in a machine and it made a picture and that makes me and artist", but it isn't so. You just feel entitled to feed off the work of actual artists to have AI make image mashups for you. You're a pathetic excuse for a human.
@nockergeek @sable Well if you want to start with the insults (and remember YOU started it), you're just someone who has a partner who gets to sit on their ass all day making commercial art rather than doing any kind of meaningful manual labor. Just because they have a talent that some people will pay for makes you think you have the right to define what is and isn't art. So as far as I'm concerned you are both greedy snobs who should be grateful that anyone is willing to pay for art, and should not be acting entitled as if the world owes you two a living.
And with that I am done. I don't know what the goal was of your little tirade but now I see one more benefit of AI-generated art, you don't have to deal with entitled or emotional human artists. So congratulations, you have pushed me even more firmly into the camp of AI supporters.