Search-mkJan 16, 2023
Brent Toderian

“Electric cars may produce less local pollution than petrol ones but still require enormous quantities of energy and carbon emissions to make and run.

Moreover, car-based urbanism, electric or not, is inherently unsustainable, creating low-density, inefficient & dangerous cities. A grieving parent will find little comfort in learning their child was run over by a Tesla cyber truck…”

https://www.dezeen.com/2023/01/11/congestion-roads-cities-traffic-sustainable-transport-phineas-harper/

"Cities should not just build green transport but actively dismantle car infrastructure"

Instead of desperately trying to reduce road congestion in the short term, politicians should be using traffic as a tool for making urban transport more sustainable, writes Phineas Harper.

Dezeen
Jan 15, 2023 at 4:09pmWeb
Show threadBud GibsonJan 15, 2023
@BrentToderian Not to mention that those vehicles are just way too expensive for the average consumer. The dynamic I perceive on the ground in the US Midwest is that people are advocating for denser housing because they can’t afford current prices, and they’re willing to give up on parking (hence accommodating large SUVs). This will be a political dynamic that plays out over decades, as many European examples illustrate.
Show threadYvan DecreuxJan 16, 2023
@BudGibson @BrentToderian
Considering this as a problem implies that we remain in this state of mind where the average consumer should be able to afford a car.
If the number of cars is to be reduced, it can be expected that some people will not have a car, and solutions should be found to enable them to move around.
Show threadFolksVeloJan 15, 2023
@BrentToderian and let us not overlook the environmental impact of rare earth mining. even at it's most efficient a tesla only get the energetic equivalent of 100mpg (a tenth of the efficiency of a train) bikes and trains make the perfect combination let's get the car out of towns and cities
Show threadIndy Richard 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿Jan 18, 2023
@FolksVelo @BrentToderian There is also matter of what happens to all those spent batteries. Just like computer and phone batteries, how many will be dumped? What poisons are we leaving behind us?
Show threadRoger NieldJan 15, 2023
@BrentToderian what do you think we should do? Now and going forward
Show threadSideWalkAstonomyNetherlandsJan 16, 2023
@BrentToderian Some one should invent the bike :(
Show threadsmidbotJan 17, 2023
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands @BrentToderian lol on brand for the username
Show threadAnnJan 16, 2023
@BrentToderian
Show threadIndy Richard 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿Jan 17, 2023
@BrentToderian Electric vehicles sounds like a way to make a massive amount of money in the name of helping environment yet in reality not helping the environment at all. We need better solutions.
The quest for profit and growth doesn't seem able to provide those solutions.
Show threadParanoid FactoidJan 21, 2023

@BrentToderian

This is absolute nonsense. From the Union of Concerned Scientists, a report on the viability and environmental improvement of producing and using electric vehicles versus petrol vehicles:

https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/attach/2015/11/Cleaner-Cars-from-Cradle-to-Grave-full-report.pdf

#environment #globalwarming #climatechange #climatecrisis #car #electriccar #Electricitygrid #homesolar #solar

Show threadBerkJan 21, 2023
@BrentToderian @ParanoidFactoid you’re not wrong about the stats, but the point remains that EVs and the road networks are still massively demanding of our resources, especially when compared with alternatives such as cycling and PT
Show threadPCJan 21, 2023

@BrentToderian

“Create less local pollution” - that made me #laugh.

#EVs are so #NIMBY !