Adam ConoverPlaying Last Call BBS for the first time - my first time playing any Zachtronics game - and holy shit watching the solution I built to this puzzle run felt like the proudest achievement of my entire week
Freakinbox@adamconover I tried to explain Factorio to someone one time.. and their response was "But don't you already have a job?" lol
グレェ「grey」@freakinbox I have had my suspicions that some of these so-called "games" are kind of like lower rungs than even mechanical turk realms of labor exploitation: where you *pay* to do work for others? SHENZHEN I/O had a similar vibe.
Shenmue, when you had to get a job, and could miss your bus to commute to be a fork lift operator? I hated that SO MUCH & I already worked a job I hated, I didn't need a gamified dead end career too. @adamconover
@byterhymer I loved Shenmu lol.
I literally spent hours amazed at how you could open every drawer as if it was a real-world (for the time), it drove my one friend mad... I'm not sure we are on the same page and might be looking at these games as different things.
I love mechanical/factory puzzle games.
@freakinbox It seemed OKish until that friggin fork lift operator job quest.
Admittedly, as much as I hated that, it didn't stop me from importing Shenmue II from the UK because I wanted to support the Dreamcast more than I wanted to support the Xbox.
(I did buy the Xbox version eventually too, but both copies: more or less never got played. You don't get many chances with me as a fan and if you upset me, I will just put down the controller and never come back)
@byterhymer I never did get into the sequels. I played the first on my Dreamcast and by the time I had access to the second game it hadn't aged all that well.
@freakinbox As far as mechanical/factory puzzle games, did you ever play Rocky's Boots (for the Apple ][, C64, etc.)?
It was sort of in a similar vein, though teaching players Boolean logic.
Candidly, I learned more from that game than a 10 week class in discrete mathematics in University as an undergraduate, and: IT WAS FUN!
@byterhymer I didn't. Those computers are both a bit older than I am. My first home PC was an IBM Aptiva in 1996 haha.. It came with Encarta, Dr. Brain, Torin's Passage, Mech Warrior 2, and I used a simple music maker that came with it.
@freakinbox Ah wow OK.
Well, it can be played in a browser emulator these days e.g.
https://archive.org/details/wozaday_Rockys_Boots
Trivia: Rocky's Boots creator, Warren Robinett, created the first video game with an Easter egg (ADVENTURE for the Atari 2600).
DrMast@adamconover I mean, I too love this sort of "entertainment"
However, at some point I have to stop and think "I'm just not going to think this hard unless someone is paying me to do so"
lavahot@adamconover I will literally play the solitaire from that game for hours.
This was the *last* Zachtronics game. If this is something you enjoy, I strongly recommend checking out their back catalog. I was especially a fan of Shenzhen I/O and Exapunks.
Daniel Freysinger@adamconover From the looks of this, you are just about qualified to be an industrial electrician.
@adamconover also, while this game is probably not that great of a stream game, I'd totally watch just a casual chill hangout stream of you playing this and/or other zachtronics games.
Worderer@adamconover I played Opus Magnum a few years ago and I'm still convinced I'm an actual wizard.