Mastodawn

Kashmir Hill Jan 12, 2023

I just do not understand how "beta" self-driving features are allowed to be released on public highways and roads. There are so many other drivers on the road who have NOT opted into the beta test but who are forced to take part. This footage from the Tesla pile-up that happened on the Bay Bridge in San Francisco/Oakland the day that the "Tesla Full Self-Driving Beta" was launched is maddening: https://theintercept.com/2023/01/10/tesla-crash-footage-autopilot/

Exclusive: Surveillance Footage of Tesla Crash on SF’s Bay Bridge Hours After Elon Musk Announces “Self-Driving” Feature

Elon Musk has said Tesla’s problematic autopilot features are “really the difference between Tesla being worth a lot of money or worth basically zero.”

The Intercept

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Turkewitz

@kashhill

That is a great argument for punitive damages.

The only problem is that, except for the first crash, the other crashes occurred because the drivers were following too close and didn't leave themselves room to break in an emergency.

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Fyzzlefry Jan 14, 2023

@Turkewitz @kashhill That's not how traffic works in the real world. If you leave that big of a gap someone will turn into it.

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Turkewitz Jan 27, 2023

@fyzzlefry @kashhill

It may not be how "real world" traffic works but that is how the law works. There is a presumption that you are negligent if you rear-end someone. (You can rebut it if, for example, you say the other person was backing up...but that wouldn't be a defense here.)