This Saturday 14/1 I will join activists in Lützerath to defend the village and stop the coalmine. Join us at 12.00 to protect life, and put people over profit!

The science is clear, the most affected people are clear: no more fossil fuels!
#LütziBleibt #EndCoal

@gretathunberg

The worst is that is would have been entirely avoidable if Germany did not choose to stop its Nuclear powerplant and depend on russian gas #energiewende.

@adev

Even worse: It would have been well avoidable if Germany had chosen to shut down all nuclear power plants much earlier and to increase (instead of decrease) boosting renewable energy production, along with other measures such as reduction of overall energy need.

@gretathunberg

@Voka
@gretathunberg

No it would not. It would be exactly the same shit. Renewable are intermittent and there is no amount of "boosting" that will ever change that. Pure RE requires backup generally based on Gas or Coal, exactly like you have now.

Just get over your brain dead fear of #nuclear energy Germany. We are not in the 90s anymore and Tchernobyl is past.

And by the sake of god, do not speak about grid battery storage, it is ecologically speaking even more ridiculous.

@adev

Very sad, your arrogant way of discourse.

It seems that we won't get to any kind understanding, at least in this medium. Bye.

Edit: I forgot first taking a look at your profile and recent toots and boosts before saying something like above. We might share some good baseline of opinions (not too surprising, though). Nevertheless, about this thread, it seems best to stop discussing.

@gretathunberg

@Voka
@gretathunberg

I'm always very open to constructive debate. Life is about continuously learning: still I never met any anti-nuclear person having the slight scientific argument to defend their conviction. Please prove me wrong.

@adev

It is difficult to scratch up the energy to do so (i.e., to recollect a number of those scientific arguments that build the basis of my current knowledge and conviction) after encountering expressions like "brain dead" and "shit". It's not only about some of these simple words but they contribute to the whole attitude that your recent replies (not you as a person - I don't know you) indicate, and this attitude feels quite toxic for a constructive, respectful debate.

@gretathunberg

@Voka @gretathunberg

My apologies if my very direct message shocked you or make you feel like it was targeted to you. It was not.

I met so many oil and gas / Greenpeace troll on Twitter or here that I am often pretty defensive on the topic.

But yes I do believe nuclear energy is necessary if we do want to reach carbon neutrality as fast as possible. And the current CO2 emissions for electricity of Germany vs France seems to give me right on this aspect.

@adev

Respect for the apology - this is one of the reasons why I am in the Fediverse.

Well, that's a quite funny comparison in my eyes because Germany has been behaving rather stupidly in terms of engaging in all those possible non-nuclear ways of reducing GHG emissions. I don't know too much about what's going on in France but if I'm not mistaken, at least some of the recommendations of their climate citizens council have been or are being implemented.

@gretathunberg

@Voka @adev @gretathunberg Respect: I would like to congratulate you two, you avoided what could easily have become a shouting match. The internet could use more of this. Thumbs up! 👍