Antifa InternationalLondon, 1977
Marja@antifaintl fascists have every right, as have left-wingers. It's called democracy.
Robin Stephenson@[email protected] @antifaintl perhaps this will help you understand why this is incorrect
hiding from plagues ☣️♿@Marja @antifaintl fuck up fascist
K.A. Bachus@Marja @antifaintl no, they have no right to use democracy in order to destroy it. The ideology itself is evil. To say it is valid in any way is to say mass murder is simply an alternative lifestyle.
@Kathleen @antifaintl You ignore the simple fact that democracy is for everyone. You cannot deny this right to people who don't think like you. Or you don't understand the concept of democracy.
@Marja You ignore the paradox of tolerance.
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Corn Woman 🌽@changeling @Kathleen @antifaintl @Marja * checks history book *
The ACLU, apparently.
Edward Newton@Marja @Kathleen @antifaintl This is a bit like saying "everyone has a right to play with the basketball, including the people who want to deflate it."
No, that's not how this works.
@Marja Welcome to philosoper Karl Popper's "Paradox of Tolerance," wherin in unlimited tolerance can lead to the extinction of the tolerant society.
@Marja The problem with you equating fascism with "left-wing extremism." (this is called "horseshoe theory" & was most famously used in Trump's "both sides" speech in 2017 btw):
Fascists: we want to use violence to seize power and then forcibly remove or eradicate those we see as inferior outgroups, esp. racial outgroups.
Extreme leftists: we want to stop fascists from hurting people.
You: See? Both sides should be treated equally!
Fascists: we want to use violence to seize power and then forcibly remove or eradicate those we see as inferior outgroups, esp. racial outgroups.
Extreme leftists: we want to stop fascists from hurting people.
You: See? Both sides should be treated equally!
LadyT@antifaintl not sure your description of extreme leftists is correct
:barend:@Marja @antifaintl But more important: do you, Marja, think fascists should be tolerated? And if not, how is that different from them having rights?
Pamela Ehn@Marja @antifaintl not when their politics center on the idea that I have no right to exist. Every time a democracy tolerates fascist ideology, the fascists win.
Comanche@Marja @antifaintl
It’s not it’s the route to the end of democracy. Fascists, inherently, have absolutely no belief in the concept of democracy.
It’s not it’s the route to the end of democracy. Fascists, inherently, have absolutely no belief in the concept of democracy.
Andy@Marja @antifaintl
Fascism doesn't belong in civilised society.
Definition: A political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition