It's the damndest thing...
When I was growing up, they made me say a pledge every day that said "liberty and justice for all."
They taught me "the golden rule."
They sent me to church to learn about a guy who said we should help the poor and the sick, we should show love to each other.
They told me that "but everyone else is doing it" wasn't an excuse for my own bad behavior.
And now when I advocate for the things that they taught me, they call me a socialist or a communist.
@usdosp
Why did any of us agree to chant that stupid pledge every morning like a bad scene from an Orwell novel?
The Pledge of Allegiance is a loyalty oath, and a loyalty oath has no place in a free country. If the state wants our loyalty, it should earn it by doing things that benefit the masses.
Most of the rest of the world thinks the Pledge is [bad word] weird. We're the only ones that can't see that because we're the targets of this indoctrination.
@tofugolem @usdosp +9001%
People who pledge allegiance to a flag and not values are bad - period!
Sustained freedom for everyone demands limits that prevent one person's free action from destroying the freedom of others. In other words, it demands an implicit pledge to that principle, at the very least.
@MartinFarrent @kkarhan @usdosp
That's a terrible rationalization.
The people with the most positive views about that oath are the very ones actively working to destroy those freedoms right now. Surely you can see that.
You want to promote freedom?
You can start by working to stop the people banning thousands of books all over the country…
@MartinFarrent @kkarhan @usdosp
…You can start by making sure that politicians who endanger the lives and immigration status is legal immigrants for cheap political stunts pay a price.
You can start by making sure every single person who spread the lies that motivated a violent coup intended to end the republic and overturn a free and fair election pays a price.
But this? This ain't it, chief.
The people you cite about ARE trampling on other people's freedom. Preventing that is the principle I am talking about.
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