Grant Bogle

I am quickly becoming radicalized against the streaming establishment and state of movie watching.

Wasn't the promise that if we pay for all of these services we'll have access to everything at our fingertips?

Three popular movies from this year that I would love to watch:
1. TÁR
2. The Woman King
3. Everything Everywhere All at Once

Only one (Everything Everywhere) is available on a streaming service, and it's Showtime — sold as an expensive add-on to services I already pay for. Otherwise, you have have to make an expensive digital purchase to watch each one.

It's incredibly disappointing that studios and consumers were tricked into reshaping an entire industry around the promise of streaming, which is seemingly failing.

#Movies #Film #Streaming #Entertainment #DigitalEntertainment #TÁR #WomanKing #EverythingEverywhereAllAtOnce #Netflix #Showtime #HBOMax #DisneyPlus #AppleTV #Peacock #ParamountPlus #Cinemastadon

Dec 30, 2022 at 7:46pmWeb
Show threadGrant BogleDec 30, 2022

But like... Netflix paid $450 million for two Knives Out sequels. Why isn't the first movie on Netflix alongside the launch of Glass Onion? This is just a disaster.

#Netflix #KnivesOut #GlassOnion #Streaming #Movies #Film #Entertainment #Cinemastadon

Show threadCarl DownieDec 30, 2022
@grantbogle It's a cycle, I'm surprised we haven't seen the same with music streaming services honestly. Cable TV used to have no ads and look at it now, it's starting with the streaming services too. I don't think we were tricked though, we just got lucky that Netflix did it before Disney. Netflix was successful because everyone was torrenting films, maybe that will happen again and the cycle will continue.
Show threadGrant BogleDec 30, 2022
@carl True. This is just particularly unfortunate because of the way it upended creators' pay, the way things get made, etc. Certainly lots of benefits, particularly in the amount of quality content being put out. I'm not sure it was worth it though.
Show threadマリオ (Mario Menti)Dec 30, 2022
@grantbogle
I don't necessarily disagree with your points, and I don't know where you are located, but FWIW Everything Everywhere is available on Amazon Prime, in the UK at least...
Show threadGrant BogleDec 30, 2022
@mario Yeah, here in the US only on Showtime or $13 digital purchase.
Show threadErtainDec 30, 2022
@grantbogle Yes, it is failing.
Show threadCTraceyWritesDec 30, 2022
@grantbogle and not even just streaming. The actual movie making process has gone down hill. So many movies are jam-packed with overused cgi, bad sound, bad lighting, and disappointing stories. The few good movies that come out stand out so much because everything else is just so mediocre, at best.
Show threadGrant BogleDec 31, 2022
@Tracey_Writes For sure. The whole industry is definitely due for a reset. I hope it comes soon.
Show threadGrant BogleDec 31, 2022

@Tracey_Writes It also blew up the compensation structure for filmmakers/actors. Some tech bros decided to take a system that had worked relatively fine for 100 years and tear it all down, but never really rebuilt it in a way that makes sense.

Not that nothing good has come of it. There's lots of great content that wouldn't have been made in the previous system; I'm just not sure that on net it's better

Show threadTim HaywardDec 30, 2022
@grantbogle it will no doubt increase privacy akin to the Napster years. When it was just Amazon and Netflix, it was easy, two subs, most content, now you need about £100 worth of services and then you need the add ons. The masses won’t do that, especially during a time of inflation and economic uncertainty. I could go on!!!
Show threadGrant BogleDec 31, 2022
@timhayward Yep, any way that pressure can be put on these companies will drive them to come up with a better product.
Show threadElisheva Meira ✡︎ 🌈Dec 30, 2022
@grantbogle Have you checked your local library system? If these were released on DVD, they might have them or be able to get them via interlibrary loan.
Unless the system's messed that up too, I'm far from current on movie-watching.
Just a thought in case it helps you get to see your films. Good luck.
Show threadFord EytouDec 31, 2022
@grantbogle Subscribe. #Binge. Cancel. 🎬 🔄
Show threadGrant BogleDec 31, 2022
@Deavil For sure. What drives me nuts is the number of movies that still aren't even available on the services when you do subscribe/binge. (Woman King, TÁR, etc. The Creed movies are some highly rated and popular films from the last 5-7 years and you can't stream them anywhere.
Show threadFord EytouDec 31, 2022
@grantbogle The old Netflix model is pretty much dead, which is what it sounds like you're looking for. The other media conglomerates discovered that the Netflix streaming model works, so they took their content and went home. Capitalism, working as designed.
Show threadGrant BogleJan 3, 2023
@Deavil Honestly, I'd be fine if I just knew that each studio's content would be on their corresponding service. A large part of my problem is that doesn't seem to be the case for a lot of content. Now Warner Bros. Discovery is taking content off of HBO Max, and so on.
Show threadFord EytouJan 3, 2023
@grantbogle Disney is known for creating artificial demand by making their content scarce, in the old hard media days. Not sure they are also doing that with streaming, but it sounds like the other media conglomerates are doing that as well. Those types of shenanigans make a strong case for 🏴‍☠️ . No t that I'd condone that type of thing 😎
Show threadThe Year of Horror MoviesDec 31, 2022

@grantbogle I couldn’t agree more, it seems ok if you’re into the marvel multiverse (similar multiverses are also available) but anything slightly off the beaten track is painfully inaccessible or expensive.

It’s little wonder so many people turn to illegal streaming or torrent sites.

Show threadGrant BogleJan 3, 2023
@horroryear For sure. And I love those movies, just not sure I love what they and related trends are doing to the industry.
Show threadSassy slothDec 31, 2022
@grantbogle I hate it for the reasons you mention but I also tell myself we’re still better off than when I was a kid and you were either at the mercy of the tv stations or the local video store. Still sucks though for the amount we pay for these services.
Show threadGrant BogleJan 3, 2023
@sassysloth Yes, that is certainly true. I just can't believe how much of a mess it is sometimes.