It’s a complete failure of infosec-meets-user-psychology that “this TLS certificate is issued for your bank and the server is sneaky hackerman dot com” and “this otherwise valid certificate expired a day ago” have the EXACT SAME USER EXPERIENCE.

@Quinnypig i still think its kinda silly that browsers lose their shit over self-signed certs for rfc1918 addresses.

as if all the people who work on browsers have never bought a nas, or a router, or anything else thats an embedded device that lives on the lan which will likely never ever see a cert update.

@Viss @Quinnypig

On a related point: it is *absolutely shameful* that I can't set up a CA locally for devices on my own rfc1918 network (using a .home DNS name) and have https "just work" without having each client trust a CA key that then can MITM *any* https content.

Why can't I say "trust this cert only to sign stuff in 192.168.*.* or with a *.myhomenet.home DNS name"?