Mark SumnerDec 28, 2022
There is no such thing as a “job creator.” There are employers, who hire employees, *because they need them*. And then employers pay the employees less than the value they generate. That’s the system. How did we get to the point at which people behave as if the wealthy are giving a gift to working people? I realize it’s not a new attitude, but it remains proudly f’d up.
Show threadHello57visDec 28, 2022
@Devilstower
I work in biotech and I disagree
just as there are exceptional individuals in athletics (Simone Bile, the GOAT) there are exceptional B leaders who are job creators
true, those jobs require customers, but over all I think your message is not 100% accurate
Show threadartisanroxDec 28, 2022

@Hello57 @Devilstower

"Job Creator" is a bad faith attempt to reframe an utterly self-centered (doesn't mean "bad" by default, just self-centered) position like CEO as ultimately humanitarian and charitable.

Being a business owner isn't being a charity owner. The second you suggest profits aren't important, or get told that profits should extend to ALL people making them, you get told VERY loudly that "businesses aren't a charity".

Employment isn't by default, EVER, a charitable activity.

Show threadHello57visDec 28, 2022

@artisanrox @Devilstower

I find your arguments unpersuasive, and I don't think further conversation will be productive

Show threadPMCoderDec 28, 2022
@Hello57 @artisanrox @Devilstower I don't think there was any argument to be made. It's just an illustration of a fact. The purpose of a for-profit business is profit. Labor is just a tool for doing that. If labor helps increase the profit margin the company will hire. If it doesn't it will not. If labor can be replaced by computers and machines it will happen and the company will continue to turn a profit which is its goal without labor which is not.
Show threadHello57visDec 28, 2022

@pmcoder @artisanrox @Devilstower

I find your arguments unpersuasive, and I don't think further conversation will be productive

Show threadartisanrox

@Hello57 @pmcoder @Devilstower

If you copy and paste a reply enough you'll pursuade us of anything you want LOL 

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