woolieDec 27, 2022
@[email protected] @rachael @notjustbikes it should be an absolute limit or there is no reason to have a limit at all. Regardless, it’s academic. In 10 years in Oakland I have never seen a driver cited for excess speed or reckless driving, not even once.
Show threadocdtrekkieDec 27, 2022

@wooliex @[email protected] @rachael @notjustbikes So at-limit in Chicago will get you run down. You will cause an accident. Our legislators actually basically demanded they raise the speed limits, and the department of transportation refused.

So the result in and around Chicago is a posted speed limit of 55 MPH on the interstates, a safe travel speed of between 65 and 80 MPH, and a point where you'll get pulled over by a cop of roughly 90 MPH.

Show threadNorman WilsonDec 27, 2022
@ocdtrekkie @wooliex @tlalexander @rachael @notjustbikes If any slower speed will get you run down, it means other motorists are following too closely, inattentive, or otherwise reckless. Sorry.
Show threadocdtrekkieDec 27, 2022
@oclsc @wooliex @[email protected] @rachael @notjustbikes That is... completely wrong. If you are driving slower than the majority other traffic, *you* are the reckless driver.
Show threadNorman WilsonDec 28, 2022
@ocdtrekkie @wooliex @tlalexander @rachael @notjustbikes
I suggest you consult your local traffic laws. If I intentionally drive below a designated minimum speed, I may be committing an offense. If you drive so recklessly that you can't stop in time just because I'm slower than you, you ARE committing an offense. Following too closely is reckless by definition. Sorry.
Show threadocdtrekkieDec 28, 2022
@oclsc @wooliex @[email protected] @rachael @notjustbikes This isn't about traffic laws, it's about psychology and effective safety. Traffic laws are not necessarily correct for reducing danger to pedestrians, bicyclists, and other drivers.
Show threadFrank Verhoeven
@ocdtrekkie @oclsc @wooliex @tlalexander @rachael @notjustbikes Imagine the discussions in traffic court.
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