woolieDec 27, 2022
@[email protected] @rachael @notjustbikes it should be an absolute limit or there is no reason to have a limit at all. Regardless, it’s academic. In 10 years in Oakland I have never seen a driver cited for excess speed or reckless driving, not even once.
Show threadocdtrekkieDec 27, 2022

@wooliex @[email protected] @rachael @notjustbikes So at-limit in Chicago will get you run down. You will cause an accident. Our legislators actually basically demanded they raise the speed limits, and the department of transportation refused.

So the result in and around Chicago is a posted speed limit of 55 MPH on the interstates, a safe travel speed of between 65 and 80 MPH, and a point where you'll get pulled over by a cop of roughly 90 MPH.

Show threadNorman WilsonDec 27, 2022
@ocdtrekkie @wooliex @tlalexander @rachael @notjustbikes If any slower speed will get you run down, it means other motorists are following too closely, inattentive, or otherwise reckless. Sorry.
Show threadocdtrekkieDec 27, 2022
@oclsc @wooliex @[email protected] @rachael @notjustbikes That is... completely wrong. If you are driving slower than the majority other traffic, *you* are the reckless driver.
Show threadDr. Chris Rackauckas Dec 27, 2022
@ocdtrekkie @oclsc @wooliex @tlalexander @rachael @notjustbikes if cars are moving too fast to handle anything out of the norm, then the speed limit should be lower.
Show threadocdtrekkieDec 27, 2022
@chrisrackauckas @oclsc @wooliex @[email protected] @rachael @notjustbikes Lowering the speed limit will not cause cars to drive slower, as it so happens.
Show threadNorman WilsonDec 28, 2022
@ocdtrekkie @chrisrackauckas @wooliex @tlalexander @rachael @notjustbikes True. Enforcement is needed to change bad habits, and creating an environment in which driving slower feels more right--narrower and fewer lanes, more turns--is important.
Show threadDr. Chris Rackauckas 
@oclsc @ocdtrekkie @wooliex @tlalexander @rachael @notjustbikes and so we can take some of that room and make bike lanes. Sounds like a good win win!
Dec 28, 2022 at 12:07amWeb
Show threadocdtrekkieDec 28, 2022
@chrisrackauckas @oclsc @wooliex @[email protected] @rachael @notjustbikes THAT is a way to reduce effective vehicular speed, yes!