Laurie VossIn 2023 non-blockchain decentralized technologies will leave web3 in the dustbin of history.
I still think there are major and fundamental economic and social barriers to truly decentralized tech, but to the extent that we get decentralized anything it will be without blockchains.
Sarah Emerson@seldo is RSS / SMTP the type of thing you're talking about, or is there a new hot way to do decentralized?
@loveallthis I think things like https://spritely.institute are interesting.
John Samuel
Barney Laurance@seldo Agreed. I think there's a good argument that a blockchain shouldn't really be called "decentralised". There is a centre, it just moves around a lot. Whoever successfully adds a block to the chain is the centre.
@seldo Blockchain is a single linear chain - it's not many independent chains that influence each other but run independently in parallel.
Kim Crayton ~ Her/She@seldo we can only hope
Harish Narayanan
Nora. Yep.@seldo I certainly hope so
Hugh
Eli@seldo Farcaster is actually a pretty good web3 Twitter alternative with lots of users.
You can search for people to follow based on what NFTs they have, which makes discovery much easier than anything on the Fediverse I have seen.
As a freelancer it is much easier to get paid for your work using crypto, are you against FOSS devs getting paid and having more equity and control of capital allocation?
@elih if it's web3, then it's not good. And "easier to get paid for your work using crypto" is an assertion made without evidence, and I don't think it's accurate.
Sören@elih @seldo even if we concede that “this person bought gizmos x, y, z; therefore, they should pop up in discovery due to shared interests” is a good approach (I’m not sure that it is since it marginalizes poor people), why does that require a blockchain? In-app purchases don’t need a blockchain. It’s an extremely and unnecessarily inefficient implementation of loot boxes
Lots of NFTs are free mints on Ethereum Layer 2s like Optimism.
Blockchains allow transactions without trusted third parties and enable people to log in to websites with a portable identity and collection of items.
Many people involved with crypto used it to get out of poverty, and tech work in crypto can be much more inclusive because you can work as an anonymous persona. So if you care about poor people why attack one of the few opportunities they have to get out?
Chad Kirby@seldo Blockchain is way overused and over-hyped. I still think there's a use for decentralized, self-sovereign digital cash.
Cardano is very decentralized, very energy efficient, and very scalable. Besides all of the fretting over money laundering, I don't see a downside.
Cardano is very decentralized, very energy efficient, and very scalable. Besides all of the fretting over money laundering, I don't see a downside.
@chad "apart from it being primarily used for crime, no downside"?
@seldo Well that’s a complex topic that needs some robust debate.
Is there a use for self-sovereign digital cash besides crime? (Similar topic to self-hosted decentralized social media. I could argue the primary use is to evade DMCA, CP, and hate-speech moderation)
If there is a use case, is that something we can reasonably support while also mitigating criminal use? Are there criminal mitigation methods that don't simply undermine all the benefits of the currency?
Is there a use for self-sovereign digital cash besides crime? (Similar topic to self-hosted decentralized social media. I could argue the primary use is to evade DMCA, CP, and hate-speech moderation)
If there is a use case, is that something we can reasonably support while also mitigating criminal use? Are there criminal mitigation methods that don't simply undermine all the benefits of the currency?
Alessandro Mencarini
groxx@seldo I have some hope for Solid, but they really need to make some practical documentation. Far too many W3C flavored specs, do-anything-anywhere-very-badly mega-libraries, and breathless dreams. Not enough "here's a small ecosystem of simple, useful sites that work together, and how they achieved that".
Andrew F@seldo I really wish browsers would support this by investing more in cross-domain interop. Take, for example, the annoyances around following people on other Mastodon instances without a browser extension. We have web protocol handlers but the UX is nowhere near as good as, say, registering intents for mobile apps.