PwnallthethingsDec 21, 2022
CNN with an early look at what to expect in Zelensky's speech https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-12-21-22/h_d9706c8f4cdc7a4e15a637ca1df58250
Show threadPwnallthethingsDec 22, 2022

So putting my guessing hat on; it'll cover:

* Radiation/nuclear safety
* Indefinite extension of Grain Deal
* Price restrictions on Russian energy
* Release of prisoners and deportees -- POWs; forcible deportees; children
* Restoration of Ukrainian territorial integrity
* Withdrawal of Russian forces
* Reparations for damages to be paid by Russia
* Funding and technology to restore damaged infrastructure and offset environmental damage
* Effective security guarantees (the Kyiv Security Compact)

Show threadJoxean Koret (@matalaz)Dec 22, 2022

@Pwnallthethings Is this supposed to be part of any kind of negotiation with Russia? There is no way the Russian Federation government would ever accept any of these 3 points at this stage:

* Restoration of Ukrainian territorial integrity
* Withdrawal of Russian forces
* Reparations for damages to be paid by Russia

Unless they are totally & absolutelly defeated.

Don't get me wrong, cool if it happens, but is naïve.

Show threadPwnallthethings
@joxean Sometimes it's important to make the offer, even if you know it'll be rejected
Dec 22, 2022 at 12:12amWeb
Show threadJordan WiensDec 22, 2022

@Pwnallthethings @joxean Just like the russian offers so far have been equally unlikely. Just part of negotiating.

If one party starts at their full extreme of everything they want full of things the other side can't accept and the other starts with a real offer that could have a chance already full of compromises, you're not going to negotiate to something in the middle between the two positions but something very skewed toward one side.