Casey NewtonEmbarrassed by how much I miss Twitter's quote-tweet feature on here. It was mostly used for evil but I tried to use it for good!!
Craig Newmark@caseynewton Yeah, I think I'd like quote-tweet, always used it to promote others' work, or, comedy
Rob MillerI haven't yet seen any actual data verifying that QTs caused more harm than good, or that removing them causes significant reduction in harassment and abuse. I'm 100% behind removing them even though I miss them personally if that's actually true, but so far I see a lot of folks asserting that to be so w/o any evidence.
If anyone who happens to see this has info one way or the other I'd love to hear about it, please and thank you!
John Wilson@nonsequitarian @craignewmark @caseynewton
Some groups (activists of all kinds) use this power to effect change and bring attention to people being abused by those in power.
Some groups of people are the regular recipients of quote tweet attcks and bad faith outrage at taking tweets out of context. I don’t have “data” (what would it even look like) but I’ve heard from plenty of trans folks who have suffered harm from a weaponized quote tweet dogpile
lakelady@crazybutable @nonsequitarian @craignewmark @caseynewton
My question is with stronger community engagement in moderation here in the fediverse would these attacks be more quickly reported and the bad actors removed from the community? From everything I've read about most of the fediverse this is how it should work.
@lakelady @nonsequitarian @craignewmark @caseynewton one terrible pattern I’m seeing is as mastodon gets more popular, there is nothing stopping dedicated stalkers from creating multiple accounts on multiple instances. Ban one, the next pops up.
“Right now they have about 10 active accounts they are spamming me with” is a quote I saw last week, and as each account is banned, another takes its place
It’s a structural problem I’m not sure how to solve
Adam Burck@crazybutable @lakelady @nonsequitarian @craignewmark @caseynewton How about a flag set when a profile is banned with relevant information: IP address, reason for discipline, discipline status. Other #Mastodon instances can chose to take action or not (adding a warning symbol, removing or preventing a new/duplicate profile), so it’s not really a Blacklist. @stux
@adamburck @lakelady @nonsequitarian @craignewmark @caseynewton @stux that’s interesting but you’re going to have a mess of those lists spread across every instance in the fediverse, how do you keep malicious actors from spinning up instances and flooding the lists with targeted up bans?
I am not an expert. Just trying to think, how can the tools we are creating today be used for evil?
@crazybutable @lakelady @nonsequitarian @craignewmark @caseynewton @stux You’re raising an interesting but different question of how instances are vetted. IDK. @stux, can you explain?
@Gargron Can you help us out with this question?