I have a friend, looking for a hosted 'spin up your own forum' platform. No fees or very low fees. Who should I recommend to them? They probably don't want other tools, but they might.

@mike_hales I'd look at Discourse first. It powers many of the mature online forum communities I belong to and works great on desktop and mobile browsers.

https://www.discourse.org/

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@tedcurran thanks Yes. I'm happy with discourse, #meetcoop uses it - although it's kinda over featured and a bit klunky - too much of an all-purpose workhorse , I suspect . But I need to avoid self hosting and it's hard to find hosts who admin custom discourse sites. Can you suggest some hosts who do 'turnkey' discourse forums?

@mike_hales I'm a very happy customer and enthusiastic evangelist of @jimgroom 's own Reclaim Hosting, and they host Discourse. Though I've never administered Discourse myself, I just get great service from them and think you would too.

#unpaidtestimonial
https://www.reclaimhosting.com/category/discourse/

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@tedcurran @mike_hales You are nice!
Great connection, thanks @tedcurran . I'll check out @jimgroom , specifically the post on community and scale
https://blog.timowens.io/investing-in-community/
This looks related to issues we mean to cultivate and explore this coming year, in #meetcoop #commonshour
https://forum.meet.coop/t/welcome-to-the-dance-of-infrastructure-project/1241
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Investing in Community

I recently received a support ticket, not so much asking for support, but rather wondering about the status of https://community.reclaimhosting.com/ and why it wasn't promoted more. The person pointed out that it wasn't really linked anywhere or mentioned as far as they could tell, which was absolutely

Throw Out The Manual

On using #Discourse forums
Anybody here can offer guidance on nested nav sidebars in Discourse? There's a plugin I know, displays categories/subcategories.
Links to sites that use the plugin, as demos?

I believe Discourse is limited to one level of nesting. Pretty limited for serious archiving/cataloguing? An example of how Discourse the workhorse is only half good at some things?! Here #Obsidian for example excels. Are there hooks between these two tool frames?
@tedcurran @jimgroom @jamiem

I'm drifting in the direction of wiki-like platforms. Why not a wiki? Well, we run a Discourse instance, for a start! One less install to support, one less UI to handle.

Why Obsidian? Bcos the interface for creating & linking pages is helpful, while wikis' interfaces typically are much less architecture friendly, more page-centric?

But.. Obsidian operating on markdown files shared in the Cloud (NextCloud).. seems flawed, NextCloud sends errors. Any guidance here?
@tedcurran @jimgroom @jamiem

@mike_hales @jimgroom @jamiem this sounds like a decision you should make with your users, as the effort required to participate goes forums < wiki < Obsidian collaboration. Motivating your community to comment on a thread is hard enough, but getting them to edit a wiki regularly (especially when the tools are unfamiliar or have added cost) requires support and active encouragement. I don't know what your big picture objective is here or who you'll be collaborating with.

@tedcurran
Helpful prompts thx. I used 'wiki to invoke the hypertext format as distinct from the all-contributing principle of 'voice of consensus'.

The case is a handbook with 'editorial' writing & curating by a few, rather than all-hands. The sources of content & categories are series of facilitated public conversations in the community. That's where 'all voices' figure.

Discourse happens to be the hypertext tool we have already to hand.
@jimgroom @jamiem

@tedcurran
The handbook was started in gitBook
https://meet-coop-1.gitbook.io/handbook-trial/
but for various reasons we donโ€™t wish to keep it there.

Itโ€™s being copied into Obsidian temporarily . Putting it in Discourse is a kludge but might be the simplest tech solution (if the nav sidebar is good enough). Unless Obsidian might be made to work across the cloud. The Obsidian reader/writer tools are libre software but the web hosting/cloud tools are is not.
@jimgroom @jamiem

Welcome

This is the welcome page of Handbook trial - a working prototype for a handbook for meet.coop