tanteDec 20, 2022

Javascript feels very unfriendly to "start with".

Like I want a best practice guide for modern JS and basically everyone tells you "Yeah I use Flerp but that's outdated, you should use Shlorp" and the Shlorp docs tell you you need "Peteng" and "Gropsh" set up before starting.

It's super hard to see best practice that's not "you are a startup with limitless funding, here do microservices in Kubernetes with this Meta Framework.

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(I don't need to "learn to code", I need a no-nonsense JS thing for people who are competent in another language. If I have to read another explainer of IF I'll have to kill myself)
Dec 20, 2022 at 1:33pmWeb
Show threadEddie RoosenmaallenDec 20, 2022
@tante
I think it’s easier to write to an expert (just write down what you learned or made this past week), and it’s easy to write to a complete noob (start with the basics), but reaching an audience in between is tough. It takes a special skill set, and one that’s not very common/not widely cultivated.
I’ve seen an occasional “intro to X for Y programmers”, but they’re hard to find. Even rarer is a more general “intro to X for programmers” with no specific “from” language.
Show thread@chaos_monster (aka Martin)Dec 20, 2022
@tante so something like @deadparrot RUST for JavaScript devs, but the other way around?
What is your "main" language?
Show threadBret MogilefskyDec 20, 2022

@tante I've found that for each programming language X, there's usually a hand-maintained "X the right way" website out there that tries to stay up to date with an (opinionated) "what's good practice/tooling and not obsolete".

Maybe this JavaScript-oriented instance of that pattern will help? It does not boil the frameworks ecosystem down to one choice, but at least the list is short and concise, and you can see what the non-framework tools do...
http://jstherightway.org/

JS: The Right Way

A quick reference to best practices for writing JavaScript -- links to code patterns and tutorials from around the web

JS: The Right Way
Show threadMichael McCune ☮️Dec 20, 2022

@tante my impression is that this is why the typescript community has been growing so much. the language has much more structure (while being js compatible), and as such the tooling around it is following that structure.

https://www.typescriptlang.org/

fwiw, my bias is completely in the other direction. i'm all /loosey goosey/ when it comes to my js, but i'm not getting paid for it. good luck!

JavaScript With Syntax For Types.

TypeScript extends JavaScript by adding types to the language. TypeScript speeds up your development experience by catching errors and providing fixes before you even run your code.

Show threadJez HigginsDec 20, 2022

@tante Try this book https://exploringjs.com/impatient-js/

It might be a bit low level for what you need, but Rauschmayer is very comprehensive and clear.

JavaScript for impatient programmers (ES2022 edition)