mastodon please let me see the likes and number of comments a post has at a glance. i feel like i am shouting in an empty hallway. i feel very alone all the time
I feel like it's a conscious design choice to de-emphasize caring about that kind of thing?? but it really makes the site feel like not a soul is ever on it. i dislike it a surprising amount lol

@biggestjoel I think part of the issue is that the concept of likes on Twitter and other social media sites, while they may have given people a sense of community engagement and feedback, were only ever a means by which the corporations running those sites could analyze their userbase for better targeted advertisements.

But, it's fine to want to have the sense of community engagement back. I think that will come with time, when more and more followers make the leap to mastodon.

@TexasRed @biggestjoel what? If they provide the first service they necessarily don't just provide the second one

@notkavi @biggestjoel

I'm not saying that serving advertisements to users and likes are inherently linked, I'm saying that the design of likes in old social media sites did have them inherently linked. When users post to other sites how other users are served those posts is driven by likes, but mastodon is, and as far as I know always will be, purely chronological, so they don't serve a useful purpose beyond the poster's personal affirmation.

I don't think that's necessarily healthy.

@TexasRed @biggestjoel mastodon still tracks likes internally though? Displaying likes was always a feature for users not the algorithm (since it's a feature about display)

@notkavi

The difference being it does not serve you posts that other people who have been determined to be similar to you by the algorithm liked, doesn't artificially push your messages out to people who outside the web of immediate follows. Boosts will push things to the followers of followers, etc. But merely being popular won't put a post in my home feed if it wasn't put there by someone I care about.

@TexasRed i mean that's fine and good but largely unrelated to the issue we're discussing (the lack of display in the UX on some clients, including web)