@Gleng2 You’re right about that. I’ve been able to make some headway on a one-on-one level with a few people based on going over facts repeatedly but as a whole, they reject them. I keep trying anyway.

@TonyStark I hear you. If it were just about the facts we might have a chance. Been picking up a lot lately from a book I borrowed from my dad's coffee table, a huge Trump fan. The stuff in there is astounding. While there's a lot of propaganda on the "issues", it's essentially a "how to" on how to pick the "messages" and how to use them to take down the enemy. There's nothing about principles. Just what can we point out as wrong, convince them we can fix, and effectively use it in attacks.

@Gleng2 Cripes. I haven’t had any success with really hardcore Trumpers, but a few who voted for him in 2016 and always voted Republican. The COVID denial, insurrection, election denial, and the whole deal about demolishing Social Security and Medicare along with the racism at least drew a line for a few. Not enough but a few.

@TonyStark @Gleng2 It is crazy that he stil enjoy his freedom, almost as he is above the law.

@adde @TonyStark It is. He's very good at evading prosecution; even now using his candidacy as a "shield". Very strategic.