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Scott Barolo Nov 21, 2022

#9ReplyGuys: a 2018 twitter thread by me and @shrewshrew

Reply Guy #2: THE TONE POLICE

Scott Barolo Nov 21, 2022

#9ReplyGuys: a 2018 twitter thread by me and @shrewshrew

Reply Guy #3: THE GASLIGHTER

#9ReplyGuys: a 2018 🐤 thread by @shrewshrew and me

Reply Guy #4: THE COOKIE MANSTER

If you mention #9ReplyGuys elsewhere please cite @shrewshrew, my 50/50 writing partner on this project (which probably means she did way more than half and I didn’t notice)

#9ReplyGuys: a 2018 🐤 thread by @shrewshrew and me

Reply Guy #5: HIMPATHY
(term coined by Kate Manne)

#9ReplyGuys: a 2018 🐤 thread by @shrewshrew and me

Reply Guy #6: THE SEA LION 🦭
aka Just Asking Questions (JAQass)

The term #sealioning was inspired by a 2014 Wondermark comic: wondermark.com/1k62/

More about #sealioning: here’s that Wondermark comic by David Malki
wondermark.com/1k62/

Scott Barolo Nov 23, 2022

#9ReplyGuys: a 2018 🐤 thread by @shrewshrew and me

Reply Guy #7: THE MANSPLAINER
(no shortage of these on Mastodon)

Scott Barolo Nov 23, 2022

I will post #9ReplyGuys #8 and #9 soon!
In the meantime here’s one of the great moments in the history of #mansplaining: a man mansplains mansplaining on Twitter.
(The original flowchart he’s trying to refute is by Kim Gordon.)

Scott Barolo Nov 23, 2022

#9ReplyGuys: a 2018 🐤 thread by @shrewshrew and me

Reply Guy #8: THE PRESTIGE

Scott Barolo Nov 24, 2022

#9ReplyGuys: a 2018 🐤 thread by @shrewshrew and me

Reply Guy #9: TROLLS, CREEPS and FOOLS

Scott Barolo Nov 24, 2022

The idea behind #9ReplyGuys is that, if you wish, you can use the 9 images in the thread above to quickly categorize & dismiss sexist replies. Misogynists *hate* being called unoriginal.
Thanks from me and @shrewshrew for your support, suggestions, boosts and encouragement 💕

Scott Barolo Nov 24, 2022

[note: if you want to see more details about each of these guys, with a graphic showing examples of each type of response, scroll up in the thread! 👆]

Scott Barolo Dec 13, 2022

Honestly a lot of the people on here need to learn basic reply etiquette. Mastodon is becoming known as the home of the smug mansplaining tone-policing reply.

A lot of white people feel way too comfortable here and post our unexamined unfiltered reactions without considering how annoying and exclusionary we’re being.

If you’re typing something “helpful” and the person you’re replying to didn’t ask for help or doesn’t follow you, the most helpful thing you can do is hit Cancel and move on.

@sbarolo so … white people aren’t allowed to engage with anyone on Mastodon unless they’re invited to do so in the post?
Gee, I’m old enough to know this sounds very, very familiar.
I’m happy the majority of people , at least in the US, have evolved beyond this after decades of protests and bloodshed.
And for the record, I’m not being helpful to your racist hate, I’m calling it out. And I will always call it out, whether invited to do so or not and whatever side of the fence it’s coming from.

Scott Barolo Dec 14, 2022

@pammystarr tell me more about how white people are discriminated against 😂

@sbarolo It’s sad you think any racism and hate is ok. That’s part of the problem. This will never ever end.

@pammystarr Someone wrote a whole article just for you: https://www.aclrc.com/myth-of-reverse-racism

Myth of Reverse Racism — Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre

Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre

@robinshipton that really doesn’t have anything to do with me or what I was calling him out on. He is using something with a very long history to keep certain races “in their place,” but in this instance directing it at who was doing it back then. He sees people in races, not as people. It’s perpetuating racism. It keeps it alive and familiar in our speech. Clearly it did not occur to him to call out the person he had issue with.
And besides, he’s really a dick.

@pammystarr Let me rephrase your post and see if I’m not misreading you.

Are you saying that racism is in the past, and that people accusing white people of racism now is the only thing keeping it on life support?

That’s what it sounds like. Let me know if I’ve got that wrong.

@robinshipton no, not what I’m saying. Obviously racism is very alive and well and it thrives partly by thinking like that guy thinks and speaks. He shaming an entire race for something someone(s) did. I don’t care which race it is, it is very wrong no matter which race. And racists are validated.

I’m from Michigan originally where it’s extremely tribal and full of hate. I was pushing back as a kid in the 60s on this and I’m calling him out for it today.

People must see people as people.

@pammystarr (Aside, shaming a whole race is not what Scott’s post did. That does sound like a 60s reading of it, but I can break it down into its today-reading if you like. The 60s view on race relations and anti-racism is 50-60 years out of date now, and as applicable now as 1900s ideas were in the 60s. Which is, not a lot.)

@robinshipton I’m not an academic, although I appreciate there are many theories and the work continues.
But I will never accept that hating on or shaming one race for what some of them do as acceptable. And he did do that.
In the end, however we get there, groups of people will not be the basis of some intensely complicated weird cast system like we have in this incarnation of civilization. It’s too bad I’ll be long gone by the time it happens for us.
Thanks for the chat.

@pammystarr
Appreciating that the work continues, and then citing the anti-racism equivalent of miasma theory, doesn’t sound like actual appreciation of just how far behind half a century is. The dismissal is pretty loud and clear.

But if you’re okay with becoming the problem today that your parents’ generation was in the 60s, what’s there to say.

Maybe: What would teenage-you say to this out-of-touch elder? Would she call out her complacent participation in modern racism, or not?

@robinshipton
Things have changed, I accept that. I’m working on my own survival of retirement without being able to retire.
I don’t have work life balance in place, I don’t have the time available to take courses to study race theories at this point in my life.
It’s good we had this conversation and I’m glad we did because I learned that youth has taken the lead and things have changed. I’ll get out of the way and step aside.
Please don’t be condescending.

@pammystarr Sorry, didn’t mean to condescend, but I did from frustration.

You were once on the right side, but now seem to not realize you’re doing all kinds of things that are now—through all that work since then—recognized as actually pretty racist actions, just in this thread. 🙁

Does it help to know it doesn’t take classes? Listening *is* actually the best way today. Follow the BIPOC here on Mastodon, read their work just in passing each day, and recalibrate? I think you can.