Leon GreenDec 15, 2022
Saielle DaSilva

Black people will literally bring receipts and screenshots of #racism on this app and people will reply like “wait, what’s soo bad about that? I have the same predisposition to comments or questions like these, does it make me racist?”

YES. If you reply to a concern about racism by centering yourself instead of listening to the person affected, and trying to learn, yes.

Dec 14, 2022 at 8:59pmWeb
Show threadnico?Dec 14, 2022

@intentionaut Black people always have receipts

I'm just bummed that wypeepo ask for and immediately discount them

Show threadAnthonyUplandpoetWatkinsDec 15, 2022
@intentionaut
us white folk can be pretty thick, and thats being kind
Show threadCassandrichDec 15, 2022
@AnthonyUplandpoetWatkins @intentionaut Us or US? 😂 Capitalization makes it hard to tell which you meant, but if the latter, it's definitely not just US. This kind of "I don't want to hear about racism, plus you're being reverse racist, and I don't believe you, and..." response is classic from Europeans too.
Show threadMatěj Cepl 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦Dec 15, 2022
@dalias @AnthonyUplandpoetWatkins @intentionaut It should be certainly “us”. We, Europeans, don’t have that many blacks (outside of UK, France, and other former colonial empires), but we have Roma, Turkish gastarbeiters, immigrants from Africa and Near East and others. I think we all can safely assume that we all are racist, and only some of us have not admit it (to themselves) yet (and if we, blokes, have nothing else to do, we can start with sexism).
Show threadDennis JernbergDec 15, 2022

@intentionaut I call it "pulling caste" because I see America as not a society but a barbaric rigid racial caste system, which our conservatives are fanatically devoted to and our liberals are fatally clueless of. Pulling caste even subtly (microaggression) is every bit as immoral/anti-moral as outright persecution for "racecrime". I myself have my moments.

(Me: not POC but bullied for not being neurotypical and therefore not "eugenically correct", which makes this my "berserk button")

Show threadTsumami Dec 15, 2022
@dennis_jernberg @intentionaut caste isn’t the correct term. The west definitely does not have a caste system or anything remotely similar to it. That’s actually borderline offensive to Dalits.
Show threadDennis JernbergDec 15, 2022
@tsumami @intentionaut Europe definitely doesn't. The American colonies, however, were organized on explicit caste systems starting with the Spanish Empire's, on which England/Britain and France modelled theirs. I'll have to add that by "our" I meant "in the US", where the caste system inherited from the British Empire (which also ruled India) is implicit rather than explicit as in India, but no less oppressive for it.
Show threadDrooling Fan GirlDec 15, 2022
@dennis_jernberg @tsumami @intentionaut eh, not a very robust one, but there are remnants. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste#Europe
Caste - Wikipedia

Show threadDrooling Fan GirlDec 15, 2022

@tsumami @dennis_jernberg @intentionaut India is not the only culture to have a caste system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste

Caste - Wikipedia

Show threadthepoisontartDec 15, 2022
@intentionaut once we start seeing our own racism, we can't stop seeing it because it's EVERYWHERE.
Show threadMorriganDec 15, 2022
@intentionaut 🎯🔥
Show threadPostcards4CADec 15, 2022

@intentionaut The Bridge Poem by Donna Rushin: “…Sick of being your insurance against
The isolation of your self-imposed limitations
…
Sick of being the sole Black friend to 34 individual white people

Find another connection to the rest of the world
Find something else to make you legitimate
Find some other way to be political and hip

I'm sick of mediating with your worst self
On behalf you your better selves…”

Show threadRONDec 15, 2022
Lovely but since people don't think, yourvlogic has a flaw. Also don't piss on your friends, just becuz they don't think.
Show threadmalenaDec 15, 2022
@intentionaut sure seems like mastodon users have been historically skewed toward more bookish, online, or academic personalities, leading many to react with hyper “logical” rationalizations instead of empathy. i have found that w/ my own racism learning curve, so much racism is actually rooted in our personalities and how we deal with the world in general. anti-racism can be a full self improvement project as well as a political necessity