#Food Today's advice column inspired grouse:

Starter salads are not a vegetarian entree!

I am a breathing embodiment of the stereotype that vegetarians love salad. I really do! I love salad A LOT.

And yet, not being a cow, I still cannot digest roughage. Folks who seem to fully understand for themselves and their meat-eating guests that a bowl of greens is not a meal should not have trouble grasping that it is not a meal for a vegetarian, either.

#Food If you are providing a meal for vegetarians and you really don't know what to offer you can go ahead and ask the vegetarians in question. But a good guideline is that vegetarians have the same macronutrient needs as everyone else. Our meals typically contain some combination of carbs, fat, and protein.

Fun fact: lettuce contains none of the above. All it is is fun to crunch. Basically the bubble wrap of the food world.

#Food Getting several replies to this from lettuce fans talking up its nutritional value. Lettuce is great!

...but it's not a meal, which is the point of this thread. Meals contain actual calories in sufficient quantity to fuel daily activities. In situations where a meal is being served, vegetarians deserve to be served an actual meal, and green salad is not a meal.

@Annalee there should at least be croutons.

And a sammich.

@Annalee Oh no, we're still having to have this conversation. :P 30 years ago, it was either pasta primavera or salad...you'd think most people would have caught up by now, particularly with so many gorgeous and yummy options (which there were fewer of 30 years ago). Alas, progress still eludes us.

P.S. I strongly dislike pasta primavera.

@Annalee people continue to be shocked that vegetarians and vegans need and even like PROTEIN. Like.... duh.