@kijekijikokwe no, hate speech is sadly a part of free speech, as is our ability to speak against it. Freedom means some people being shit

@assdragon @kijekijikokwe Nope. Germany has a free speech except hate speech law that is amazing. Hate speech inherently infringes on the freedom, including freedom of speech, of minoritized groups. There is no place for hate speech in a free civil society.

@womanontherun @assdragon I agree. Freedom means living in a society where at the very least people who are perpetuating shit can be safely labelled as such. We're not even close to that so I don't know what would happen after that. But this whole "hate speech will always be with us so ..." approach to "freedom" is always beyond sus to me.

@womanontherun @kijekijikokwe I appreciate you low key calling me racist. Thanks. But when the government can define what is and isn’t appropriate speech they will inevitably begin to claim anything they don’t agree with as bad speech that we can not allow and people will cheer that it’s the best thing that ever happened. Its happened before it will again.

@assdragon @kijekijikokwe Even the ACLU realized that free speech absolutism is not a valid approach to society. And that is an organization founded by Jewish people who defended Nazi speech DURING THE HOLOCAUST. Modern Germany functions very well without constant hate speech.
As for calling you racist, I don‘t think anyone did unless I missed something. So if your subconscious is saying that, maybe unpack those feelings a bit.

@womanontherun @kijekijikokwe she said what I said was sus. Which implies I’m under suspicion of endorsing hate speech. Which I’m not.

@assdragon @womanontherun I didn't say anything about you personally other than I suspected that you're projecting your insecurities about your own privileges and systems of oppression that sustain you, rather than lauding the value of absolute freedom of expression. And that was kind of rude and I apologize for the bluntness.