Get On The BlowerDec 9, 2022

In an unexpected turn, we've found ourselves blocking the official #RaspberryPi instance today, basically until they put an adult in charge of it.

If anyone really wants to learn how a relatively beloved and respected brand can burn a staggering amount of good will in record time, @aurynn has written up a very good case study of the event:
https://eiara.nz/posts/2022/Dec/09/a-case-study-on-raspberry-pis-incident-on-the-fediverse/

A Case Study on Raspberry Pi’s Incident on the Fediverse

A short case study covering what happened with Raspberry Pi on the Fediverse.

Show threadOlavDec 9, 2022
@geton @aurynn this is an honest question, in case I missed something: are they being defederated for doing something egregious, or simply because they're complete assholes?
Show threadMike [SEC=OFFICIAL]Dec 9, 2022
@olavf @geton @aurynn what exactly do you imagine is the difference between those two things?
Show threadOlavDec 9, 2022
@mike @geton @aurynn the difference being a couple assholes is something an individual should decide. Admin level instance blocking needs to be for egregious reasons. A last resort. Otherwise the Fediverse will actually disintegrate. You might have things okay in your TOS but someone might not like and you're next.
Show threadMike [SEC=OFFICIAL]Dec 9, 2022

@olavf @geton @aurynn what exactly do you think isn't egregious about the official brand account of an electronics company being indistinguishable from a "couple assholes"?

The fedi is working just fine, mate.

Show threadOlavDec 9, 2022
@mike @geton @aurynn they're not actually doing anything egregious though. To my knowledge they're not harassing people. They're not abusing hashtags. They're not even posting disturbing images. They're just (apparently) assholes, which should be an individual opinion since it doesn't really affect anyone that isn't following them.
Show threadAurynn ShawDec 9, 2022
@olavf @mike @geton the best part about fedi is that you’re entitled to find an admin that believes that, and move there.
Show threadOlavDec 9, 2022
@aurynn @mike @geton blocking entire instances because your admin doesn't like them is not the best part of Fedi. I'm not just talking about RPi. admins want t to make their own corner that will get smaller and smaller as they keep ganging up on the s.ite of the week. I suppose I wish them well and come back someday
Show threadAurynn ShawDec 9, 2022
@olavf @mike @geton it works amazingly well for us, and if you don’t like it, you can find an instance that doesn’t defed, so we can defed it for you.
Show threadTim Fisher 🇺🇸Dec 9, 2022
@aurynn @olavf @mike @geton The irony of this comment is absolutely incredible.
Show threadAurynn Shaw
@tf @olavf @mike @geton What irony? Instances that don't defederate get themselves on fediblock pretty quickly.
Dec 9, 2022 at 6:40pmWeb
Show threadTim Fisher 🇺🇸Dec 9, 2022
@aurynn @olavf @mike @geton Okay, when two admins don't get along, you believe defederation is the optimal path forward. Anyone that doesn't agree with you should also be defederated. But disagreement is not an isolated condition, it's humanity. The policy that rudeness should be met with retaliation, escalation, and ultimately defederation is just plain wrong. Long term, such a policy leaves everyone as an island. How is that good for Fedi?
Show threadAurynn ShawDec 9, 2022

@tf @olavf @mike @geton The Fedi is a loose federation of networks, not a single network. Anything you see as "the network" is an emergent effect of admins doing a lot of work defederating and cleaning up.

There is no contiguous whole, and never will be.

Admins are responsible to their own users. If they make bad choices and don't moderate properly get their instance defederated, their users will leave.