Alex WildThe willingness of people to provide all sorts of free labor and art to a Nazi political movement is really shocking.
Y’all need to get off Twitter.
That’s literally what you are doing by posting there. Keeping a white supremacist venture afloat.
Watching supposed “collectivists” fail to conduct the easiest collective action ever- collectively ceasing to write unpaid for a fascist-owned business- is quite frankly baffling.
Like, what are you even doing? Is your addiction that deep?
If a Nazi bar held open mic Mondays, where you could go and say anything you like about, say, abortion rights or climate change or reparations, would you go?
Of course not. Even when your message is antithetical to Nazis, you’d be still helping Nazis by going to their bar.
Because it’s a Nazi bar.
“But I reach a lot of people with my public service messages at the Nazi bar!”
I dunno. Do religious minorities feel comfortable enough in the Nazi bar to follow you in?
My Florida Native Garden@alexwild
I think people believe the numbers are true. I thought they were mostly bots, no?
I think people believe the numbers are true. I thought they were mostly bots, no?
MelissaOK, I have a 26-year-old friend who has heart surgery in two weeks and doesn't know how to use Mastadon. I know many disabled people who don't have the money for computers and access everything solely on their phones.
The disability community don't all have the cognitive skills, physical energy or even technology to migrate all at once.
I have kept my twitter account to communicate with these friends who are in and out of the hospital.
That's not morally wrong imho
monkeytime@MelonDC @nathaliaassaad Exactly. The disability communities that have grown through years of effort in Twitter are lifesavers for so many people. It's exceedingly difficult to abandon those support networks in a month. But folks like Alex don't have room in their worldview for complexities like that. Must be nice to be so simple-minded.
I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt that it's probably just a matter of privilege. I've been trying to migrate over weeks and it takes time, energy, and work.
Yet I'm disabled and have basically two part-time jobs, as well as having to do all my own life stuff, manage doctor appointments, medical needs etc.
I am tired constantly and this migration feels like another obstacle.
@tmorman @MelonDC @nathaliaassaad it sucks that Nazis bought Twitter. It really does. Do you think the disability community has a future on a communication platform run by people who don’t think they should exist?
@alexwild That's kind of you to point out, as if we don't know that.
No, but I think the people I know don't have the physical ability to migrate right now.
A kinder way to put this is to talk about supporting the disability community, and how they could be helped migrating. There are challenges.
But that's fine. Have a good day.
@alexwild @MelonDC @nathaliaassaad Once again you are failing to address the point, Alex. There are strong, enormous and very useful networks for people from marginalized communities that have been built on Twitter through years of hard work. Quick snide judgement of the folks who are taking more than a few weeks to decide how and where to migrate those, if that's even possible, may make you feel superior but show zero appreciation for the complexities involved. Your sneering is not helping.
bug_gwen 🪲@tmorman @alexwild Yes. Also, freelancers like me have clients (current and potential) on Twitter that haven't switched. Also 10+ years of friends, and the disability community that I'm a part of. I get what you are saying Alex, but I really do not need the daily guilt trip for continuing to read twitter. Give folks some grace to slowly transition out.
Small Things Considered@nathaliaassaad @tmorman @alexwild
Disabled people like me can't domuch in our communities anymore. I am immunocompromised and there are no people masking anywhere. I literally get sick at the drop of the hat, have one kidney, have autoimmune disease and am on immunosuppressants.
If you want disabled people to live in our communities,make it safe to do so. Disabled people who are in wheelchairs need ramps.
Chronically ill people need you to mask at the grocery stores and hospitals.
Chris Lombardi@nathaliaassaad @tmorman @alexwild
TBH we have literally been left behind and if you want us to be in your "IRL worlds" it's not US who need to change.
It's the communities. We're not welcome.
@nathaliaassaad @tmorman @alexwild
Believe I don't want Twitter or Mastadon to be the center of my social life. But I can't risk my life to socialize anymore. And the places I used to socialize won't ask people to mask.
@MelonDC @tmorman @alexwild
You’re absolutely right. It’s the communities who have failed. That’s what I’m trying to say. The fact that we must rely so much on technology to connect with others says a lot about the world around us, more isolating as time passes. I’m not disabled but I still feel the loss of community. If you’re disabled, it must feel so much worse.
You’re absolutely right. It’s the communities who have failed. That’s what I’m trying to say. The fact that we must rely so much on technology to connect with others says a lot about the world around us, more isolating as time passes. I’m not disabled but I still feel the loss of community. If you’re disabled, it must feel so much worse.
Barry Goldman@nathaliaassaad @tmorman @alexwild @MelonDC unlike the previous 3 places i lived in, the last city i lived in sucked at it. then the pandemic didn't help. hoping to regroup and not need this electric network
Kim Spence-Jones #FBPE@MelonDC
I don’t think Alex is aiming his comments at people who have legitimate reasons for remaining on Twitter. The sad cases are the heavy Tweeters who seem unable to give up their addiction, despite also now comfortably posting here.
There is however one other consideration. It is possible that Twitter will become unusably buggy quite soon, or even go dark completely. Doing as much as possible to mitigate the effect this could have on vulnerable people seems like good neighbourliness.
@alexwild Alex you could at least address the point I made about people of color with large followings who have made the difficult decision to remain at Twitter to continue he antiracist work they've been building for years. Instead you're content to toss snide simplistic drive-by comments that ignore those complexities. I'm curious what anti-racist work you do, or which anti-racist activists you feel are valuable to follow here on Mastodon. Looking forward to being enlightened by you on that.
Buster McNutt@alexwild decorum prevents me from communicating what this one would do to a full NAZI bar in full light of the consequences.
Andres@alexwild A lot of people are reminiscing about meeting their wife at that bar, and how it used to not be a Nazi bar as recently as a month ago. So I empathize, even if I still think they should get tf off of that hellsite.
Weird Mustard (offline)@Andres4NY That picture is a bit wrong, though. It used to be a bar that welcomed nazis and conspiracy fans for the last 10 years. But only now they claim it exclusively for themselves as they always do when you don't show them the door right away. @alexwild
Antonio Páez 🇲🇽🇨🇦There is the naive assumption that by bringing them a message they will stop being Nazis. They will not. They love being Nazis.
Statsinthewild@alexwild this shouldn't be complicated. And somehow........kanye.
c.reider 
@alexwild there’s a lot going on with this though. tw has addictive qualities.
it’s also where friends are.
it’s also still more effective for promoting stuff like art releases, etc.
I’ve stopped posting there, but i can see why the option of remaining is alluring.
definitely wish my remaining friends would come here though.
it’s also where friends are.
it’s also still more effective for promoting stuff like art releases, etc.
I’ve stopped posting there, but i can see why the option of remaining is alluring.
definitely wish my remaining friends would come here though.
Dr. Dan Killam@alexwild I've stopped posting. Logging in once daily to check on things, and it's going just as badly as expected. It's so sad.
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