Fascism is about getting you to debate people's right to exist.
If you're debating, you're losing. Because human rights are non-negotiable! Some people can't decide whether #Ye is "mentally ill," or an actual Nazi. It doesn't matter! Once he questioned Jews' right to exist, and embraced the swastika / Hitler, he should lose the right to speak in civilized society.
Fascist filth being disseminated in public spaces means we've crossed a dangerous milestone on the road to death camps. #antifa
@sean ye is a trash person, who is having a severe manic episode. Institutionalization is a best case way to deplatform him.
Other methods will be variously less than ethical.
The folks who have used his psychosis to their benefit are villains.
@PhoenixBlue @sean This is a very tweet like response.
I don't disagree.
I'm just wary of giving him the excuse of mental illness. Most mentally ill people aren't harmful and definitely not fascist. That's between him and his doctors. What I am concerned about is the impact on society.
When you say he "can't do better right now," that removes his agency (and infantilizes him) which is extremely dangerous.
He is a fully responsible adult with a lot of wealth and power and no one forced him to go on television and praise Hitler.
If he's not the agent in this situation, then who is?
Damn this is pernicious.
He is literally not sane. I'm not at all saying that he is not doing bad things. Jesus.
Can anyone sane be a fascist? Come on.
You consider Nick Fuentes to be sane? Like all fascists, he literally wants genocide. That makes him clinically insane and a danger to himself and others.
This is a fruitless line of discussion.
I'm asking YOU not to do that.
You could call any terrorist or criminal or mass shooter insane. But they are also fully responsible for their actions.
You can call any religious nut job insane. But they are also fully responsible for their actions.
Kanye is a religious nut job and a criminally insane fascist and fully responsible for his actions. How about that?
This thread from Dave Troy sums it up.
1/West is no more “mentally ill” than Musk. They are both exhibiting signs of heavy influence. Indeed it is some kind of plantation mindset that seems to want to excuse West as lacking agency and being a victim while assuming Musk has full agency. In fact, evidence suggests they have collaborated for years and continue to do so now. https://davetroy.medium.com/the-big-history-behind-january-6th-coda-the-redpill-deception-and-the-tipping-point-312aeb98fb3d
Was Charles Manson sane? Jeffrey Dahmer? Adolf Hitler?
What does sanity have to do with any of this? Fucking irrelevant! Let it go.
Which is unironically an extremely common set of delusions for people who spiral like this. When his mom died he stopped taking meds and has progressed from egotistical fool to full blown Nazi. Yes. Sure.
The best deplatforming maneuver, the most ethical response, is for someone to force pills down his throat, strap him to a chair, and tell him what a bad boy he has been.
The alternative is either murder or suicide.
@corvusbrimstone @sean I feel like I world have had to include some sort of insult to make it *really* tweet-like ... ;)
But yeah, Germany makes Nazism illegal, and while it doesn't completely solve the fascism problem, it does make for a better society in general, I think.
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