jwzNov 27, 2022
PSA: Do Not Use Services That Hate The Internet. As you look around for a new social media platform, I implore you, only use one that is a part of the World Wide Web. tl;dr avoid Hive and Post. If posts in a social media app do not have URLs that can...
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Show threadVissNov 27, 2022
@jwz @alexwinter if you want a horror show, take 5 minutes and investigate the hive infra. look at the source code on the site. find their subdomains, see what tech they use. its like fyre festival but for social media.
Show threadWilliam GunnNov 28, 2022

@Viss @jwz @alexwinter yeah, and they're going to use VC money to buy ads to get users who won't do any of that. A key question I'm pretty sure I already know the answer to: Who's running the user acquisition program for the fediverse and what's their budget?

More questions: Did the LAMP stack win without any coordination among OS tech developers, solely on the basis of independent server admins making independent choices?

What org can champion the fediverse as a whole?

Show threadSimon FrankauNov 28, 2022
@williamgunn @Viss @jwz I think people forget how small the OSS world was, mid-90s. Not sure how big Sunsite was as a whole, but in late '96 the Linux-relevant part fitted on 2 CDs - it had Apache (beta), CERN httpd and NCSA httpd. I remember Apache winning out quite quickly. OS-wise Linux already had mindshare, free BSDs lagged due to non-free code, or maybe just less publicity. TL;DR: It's easy to converge when the pool is small.
Show threadWilliam GunnNov 28, 2022
@sgf @Viss @jwz I guess I'm just thinking that if we assume there's a pool of people who could become part of the fediverse (and that some fraction of those will donate), we end up in a better world where the fediverse gets more of those people than if Twitter or some other well-funded platform does, and it will take ecosystem-level coordination to compete for those people, because the other platforms are spending millions to get those people.
Show threadSimon FrankauNov 29, 2022

@williamgunn Yeah, I think this is super-interesting - What's the right way to build a coordinated effort? Unfortunately I don't think the rise of LAMP gives us many lessons here.

I'm trying to think of big open source efforts focused on UX-y things, and came up with, uh, GNOME and KDE. There *must* be some much better way of looking at this! If we're looking for historical precedents, maybe something very different?

Show threadWilliam GunnNov 29, 2022
@sgf Maybe Rstudio & #rstats?
Show threadSimon FrankauNov 29, 2022
@williamgunn Possibly. Not an ecosystem I've played with. I think the audience for Mastodon being so much wider will be a real challenge.
Show threadWilliam Gunn
@sgf Maybe this is the Rstudio-like partner for the fediverse? A corporate partner that can abstract away a lot of the security and CDN overhead? https://mastodon.cloud/@anildash/109423720848136434
@anildash (@[email protected])

I know a good number of Masto admins and moderators follow me here, as we get Fastly’s Fast Forward program up & running (designed to support open source & the good internet), what would you ideally like to see as support for the fediverse from Fastly? CDN services, the edge compute platform, security protection, etc.? https://www.fastly.com/fast-forward

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