Chanders

For all arguments about staying on Twitter, I’d just quote what someone on here said earlier:

When a Nazi buys your bar and starts inviting over all the other Nazis, and the Nazis get free drinks and start to push around all of the other people there, who aren’t Nazis, it’s a Nazi Bar. I wouldn’t go to a Nazi Bar.

That’s it.

Nov 27, 2022 at 6:46pmWeb
Show threadAbandoned AmericaNov 27, 2022
@Chanders yes, absolutely. What a great and succinct way of putting it
Show threadRed MonkeyNov 27, 2022
@Chanders Yep well that says it very accurately...nuff said
Show threadKitty GraylingNov 27, 2022
@Chanders Absolutely 💯 %
Show threadColonel IrrelevantNov 27, 2022
@Chanders yep. You may look through the window and hate what it’s become but entering and giving them custom? Nah.
Show threadDaveC-CO Nov 27, 2022
@Chanders Ouch. Otoh, if the bar is a polling place & the news media is obsessed with the bar, we need to tell the news media to hang out somewhere else
Show threadHeike NaumannNov 27, 2022
@Chanders Exactly. That's why I left for good some time ago. And because this influx of Nazis is combined with reduced data security, as I've read. A terrible combination.
Show threadA. RiveraNov 27, 2022
@Chanders That right there.
Show threadKFClintonNov 27, 2022
@Chanders The staff who remain are ok with working for him. The moderation is going to skew RWNJ. Bigly.
Show threadJustinNov 27, 2022

@Chanders I certainly wouldn't even stay in a hotel or resort owned by Donald Trump.

I'm definitely not going to hang-out in a place owned by his Mini Me.

Show thread🐚 Undo Influence 🐚Nov 27, 2022

@Chanders

Some people really seem to enjoy going into those places and sparring with 'em. o_0 Fine. It's their life, but I won't join in. I have better things to do.

Show threadbondoloNov 27, 2022
@Chanders my version: Imagine you have gym membership. The Gym is OK but the equipment isn't always maintained and the staff are underpaid. One day you come in and dead centre is a brand new expensive and loud fart machine. You decide this is too much and join a different gym. How is this "silencing” free speech?
Show threadAmyLounsburyNov 28, 2022
@Chanders this story has been on my mind a lot.
Show threadEric Ellason   🇺🇦Nov 28, 2022
@Chanders Yeah its not quite that simple because this Nazi bar (which i agree with you) does not advertise to the uninformed that it is a Nazi bar. This “Nazi bar” also has a global reach and global megaphone that can potentially propagandize 100’s of millions of people … unimpeded.
Show thread🌊 Jumpsuits For Trumpsuits 🌊Nov 28, 2022
@Chanders I would go a step further, and go to the gay bar across the street (even though I'm not gay--just to support it), and start figuring out a legal way to put the Nazi bar out of business.
Show threadChandersNov 28, 2022
@jumptytrumpty yep. But you don’t fight the bar by going there and trying to convince other people there to leave, or whatever.
Show thread🌊 Jumpsuits For Trumpsuits 🌊Nov 28, 2022
@Chanders I agree. The analogy between a bar and social media platform ends there, but much work can be done by convincing advertisers to leave, boycotting them, or for those that choose to stay--blocking advertisers that are still on the platform.
Show threadBarry Schwartz 🫖Nov 28, 2022
@Chanders But your friends are saying, "Let's stay and fight the Nazis!" Then what you have is gangs. Your friends are now a gang.
Show threadZoraSaidSoNov 28, 2022
@Chanders I wrote on TW if one's father is abusive and keeps inviting abusive guests over, one usually moves out. Teaching siblings to stay and fight a bad father in a toxic environment is not protecting them.
Show threadAhimsaNov 28, 2022

@Chanders I hear you, but I don't think things are as simplistic as you say.

There are disabled folks on twitter who are having a hard time (cognitive issues, energy issues, etc.) shifting to a new platform.

I want to maintain connections with those folks, not abandon them just because they are having trouble moving to a new social media platform.

Show threadGaye MurrayNov 30, 2022
@Chanders
Yes. Abs.
Big but . Really really need some Govts+ agencies to wake up & make *the* move.
Too much vital public info comes via the tattered birdie. Still.